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[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nobody hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan.

The sequels had such a good opportunity but wasted it with over correcting.

I really enjoyed the point in Episode 8 that Rey was unimportant, I thought it could have opened up the whole universe. Instead we had to be angry about everything and the on the nose fan service in Episode 9 went way too far the other direction.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Star wars had a fantastic extended universe from novels, comics and games. They threw it all away to make a trilogy where they didn't even have a complete story. As a fan, it felt like someone swapped my chocolate for cat turds.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I have definitely watched shows and movies and have either liked or disliked it only to listen to a podcast that has pointed things out I didn’t realize and has changed my opinion of the content. It’s definitely more common for me to dislike it than end up liking it.

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[–] regdog@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

How dare you insult Mr Plinkett like that

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

The power of one, the power of maaAAaAAaaAaanyyyyy.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I think this is a dumb trope to parrot. Media analysis and critique is valuable artistic output in its own right, and using it to process media that's more complex, or with additional context and research, is a totally valid way to consume and engage with the content. Hell, there are plenty of video essays that I've watched for content that I never watched in the first place, because the analysis was highly entertaining and is much less time consuming than watching an entire several seasons of a TV show or whatever. In some cases that has made me want to go watch the content in its entirety with new appreciation, e.g. House MD.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Has enough time passed since Disney marketed TLJ as being about "strong women" that we can now discuss the misogyny present in the works of Rian Johnson?

The plotlines of the male characters in TLJ made sense. The female characters on the other hand, have no cohesive motivation and they only exist to serve the plotlines of the male characters. Well I guess Rey was motivated to "fix" an abusive asshole after seeing him with his shirt off, but seems slightly problematic to me. But after that she's relegated to a support role of distracting TIE fighters and moving rocks around while the men try to accomplish the main objective while trying to overcome the obstacles caused by emotional women. Rey could've easily blown up the laser since she's in the Millenium Falcon, the ship that blew up a Death Star. But that's not a woman's role, so she's on support duty. Leia has to hide in a bunker after being in a coma half the movie so there could be a Poe mutiny plotline. The incompetent woman he mutinied against is disposed of shortly after that plotline came to a pointless end. Done with that one, get rid of her! Holdo's plan involved engineers, but she didn't tell Rose her plan. What was Rose's job again? Rian Johnson apparently forgot. She's a woman she exists solely to be an obstacle for the male characters to overcome. Things only work out when the women learn their place and stay in the bunker or maybe go around back and move some rocks around or whatever. Facing evil is a man's job!

Shouldn't be that shocking since it was made by the guy who made Looper, where he fridges Bruce Willis's wife so hard that it breaks the whole premise of the movie. Like the whole premise is that in the future, the mafia can't murder people because future CSI catches them every time. But how can Rian Johnson give the male character motivation if according to the premise of the movie, they can't murder his wife in front of him? Ah well, fuck the premise, fridge the wife. It's a Rian Johnson movie so no one will question it I guess?

Why does no one talk about this?

Are we still believing the marketing Disney did to compensate for the rampant misogyny inherent in Rian Johnson's writing?

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Going to disagree with the foundation, the motivation of the male characters didn't make sense either. Luke Skywalker, who found the good in his own father who was a genocidal maniac, considered murdering his nephew in his sleep. Dumbest thing I've ever seen. Then was so sad about it that he abandoned the galaxy. Yeah that sounds like a thorough understanding of Luke Fuckin Skywalker. Rian Johnson was a moron making that trash.

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[–] Sagan_Wept@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Critical Drinker . Jpg

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The media literacy of the general public is surprisingly low. I wouldn’t be shocked if some people actually think like this.

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