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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 67 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This also works with a picture of Jesus.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

More than that, I'm surprised that there are Christians that can read the whole Bible and say that the whole thing should be taken as literally true. But also believe that you don't have to learn anything about the cultures that wrote the thing to understand what it's saying. No wonder Americans can only read at a 6th grade level.

[–] pizza_superstar@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I try to tell people this when this comes up, as someone who grew up in a conservative church... The Christianity of today is a club, and if you're not in that club, you do not get the benefits of it. This is demonstrated perfectly in newer translations of the Bible, which many Christians believe to be more "accurate" or "inspired" by God.

Take Luke 2:14, from the KJV: "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, good will toward men."

Versus the newer ESV, which is being widely adopted in the US: "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!"

Today's Christians do not believe Jesus' teachings apply to everyone. If you're not a believer and you willfully sin, then in their minds you do not deserve Godly love and justice. This is why so many today are able to look the other way or even cheer as horrible things are done in front of them. This is why so many believe that their tax dollars should not benefit non-believers. They believe they are justified in only showing charity to their fellow Christians. Everyone else can kindly die off.

I share this because many still seem to think that pointing out their hypocrisy will somehow change minds. But be warned that they truly believe they are in the right. These are dangerous beliefs, and we're headed to scarier and scarier times if they remain in power.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

These are dangerous beliefs

True, and very similar to the "if you're not us you're not human" used by radical Israel, Islam, and Nazis.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Marx upon encountering the average .ml user

[–] lukonko@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I never understood, why's .ml so hated?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because they claim to be Marxist but are pro-Russia and pro-China.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do they think those comunisms are actual marxisms?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

They have their twisted explanations of why both countries are actually following his teachings.

[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

They lean hard authoritarian

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

They've bastardised Marxism

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[–] Morti@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm working on it, it's just so thicc! 😭

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The communist manifesto is a pamphlet.

Das Kapital is a fucking modern epic.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like when they start stuff like "vanguardism"?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Well, they did do a revolution using vanguardism, and saved Europe from fascism. Different context in backwards feudal Russia than industrial England

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Yeah... the working class kicked the Tzar out while the vanguard-boy was chilling in Switzerland though, then after being sponsored by Germany he just gave them a whole country as reward, and when that country organized itself to fight off the Germans and practice what the vanguard-boy himself had previously called "right to self-determination" they just went there and crushed that organization, famously inviting peasant leaders to meetings that were just traps to kill them... while fascism was rising, the Comintern doctrine was to oppose every anti-fascist organization that wasn't submitted to the vanguard, the KPD even supported a literal Nazi-backed referendum just to oppose social democrats, who they'd call fascists while ignoring the actual fascists. In Spain the vanguard went on to outlaw and actively fight, kill and imprison leaders of every anti-fascist organization that were actually fighting off a fascist regime that lasted until 1978... the vanguard did an amazing job destroying anti-fascist resistance in Europe while fascism was on the rise, then the vanguard that became the "socialism in one country" held a beautiful Nazi-Soviet parade in Brest-Litovsk and didn't move a finger against fascism until they were directly attacked, and then they rewrite history to pretend they were fighting against it all along.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (21 children)
  1. The USSR did do a revolution. And the end result of it was a fascist state-capitalist hellscape under Stalin, and authoritarian state-capitalist shithole after
  2. Because of said fascist state-capitalist hellscape, generals had to get on their hands and knees and beg Stalin to let them lead the defense of the USSR as the Nazis blew their way through USSR territory. Thus causing the single greatest death toll of any single nation in the war
  3. Oh yeah, and the proletariat never came even close to owning the means of production, eliminating the system of capital, or eliminating the state, or really anything Marx preached.
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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Communism but within the framework of liberal democracy so the capitalists can simply walk back into power 😩👍🏼

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

Nothing more threatening to the power of the proletariat than [checks notes] the proletariat voting.

Like, if we managed to implement a legit socialist state by our current state of bourgeois democracy, as unlikely as that is, the chance of capitalists just 'returning' because people vote in a semi-screwed system is pretty fucking unlikely

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Marx loved democracy. He viewed it as the most stable path to communism.

We're seeing this play out more and more in Scandinavia.

Its never been observed in any self proclaimed communist nation with an authoritarian state. Probably because authoritarianism is antithetical to the principles of communism.

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[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Yes but the alternative is no democracy. Democracy is flawed even when operating correctly, but it the greatest equalizing tool humanity has ever invented, and Marx recognized it

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Without democracy, you simply create a new ruling class. Workers had no say in the Soviet Union, even less than they had in the US back then.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

need one with "not gonna lie, i didn't read most of it either"

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair most of “them” don’t read any books

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why would I read Citizen Santa Claus's book?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don't you wanna know why he says "Rudolf" as he's dying?

[–] KittyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or they just read his leaflet instead of Das Kapital

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