No. Experienced devs knew it would make tasks take longer, because we have common sense and technical knowledge.
I don't blame randos for buying into the hype; what do they know? But by now we're seeing that they have caught on to the scam.
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No. Experienced devs knew it would make tasks take longer, because we have common sense and technical knowledge.
I don't blame randos for buying into the hype; what do they know? But by now we're seeing that they have caught on to the scam.
When writing code, I don't let AI do the heavy lifting. Instead, I use it to push back the fog of war on tech I'm trying to master. At the same time, keep the dialogue to a space where I can verify what it's giving me.
About 20% of the time, it'll suggest things that are entirely plausible and probably should exist, but don't. Some platforms and APIs really do have barn-door-sized holes in them and it's staggering how rapidly AI reports a false positive in these spaces. It's almost as if the whole ML training stratagem assumes a kind of uniformity across the training set, on all axes, that leads to this flavor of hallucination. In any event, it's been helpful to know this is where it's most likely to trip up.
Edit: an example of one such API hole is when I asked ChatGPT for information about doing specific things in Datastar. This is kind of a curveball since there's not a huge amount online about it. It first hallucinated an attribute namespace prefix of data-star- which is incorrect (it uses data- instead). It also dreamed up a JavaScript-callable API parked on a non-existent Datastar. object. Both of those concepts conform strongly to the broader world of browser-extending APIs, would be incredibly useful, and are things you might expect to be there in the first place.
My problem with this, if I understand correctly, is I can usually do all of this faster without having to lead a LLM around by the nose and try to coerce it into being helpful.
That said, search engines do suck ass these days (thanks LLMs)
That's been my biggest problem with the current state of affairs. It's now easier to research newer tech through an LLM than it is to play search-result-wack-a-mole, on the off chance that what you need is on a forum that's not Discord. At least an AI can mostly make sense of vendor docs and extrapolate a bit from there. That said, I don't like it.
People will literally do anything to avoid rtfm
It's a struggle even finding the manual these days if you don't already know where it is / what it's called. I was searching about an issue with my car recently and like 90% of the results are generic AI-generated "How to fix ______" with no actual information specific to the car I'm searching for.
I searched up a video to replace a part on my car. I did find it, but I also found 15 videos that were AI generated product reviews of the part.
I definitely also want my car parts to be "sleek and stylish" when hidden away under a plastic cover under the hood lmao
I find it best to get the agent into a loop where it can self-verify. Give it a clear set of constraints and requirements, give it the context it needs to understand the space, give it a way to verify that it's completed its task successfully, and let it go off. Agents may stumble around a bit but as long as you've made the task manageable it'll self correct and get there.
I like your strategy. I use a system prompt that forces it to ask a question if there are options or if it has to make assumptions. Controlling context is key. It will get lost if it has too much, so I start a new chat frequently. I also will do the same prompts on two models from different providers at the same time and cross reference the idiots to see if they are lying to me.
I use a system prompt that forces it to ask a question if there are options or if it has to make assumptions
I'm kind of amazed that even works. I'll have to try that. Then again, I've asked ChatGPT to "respond to all prompts like a Magic 8-ball" and it knocked it out of the park.
so I start a new chat frequently.
I do this as well, and totally forgot to mention it. Yes, I keep the context small and fresh so that prior conversations (and hallucinations) can't poison new dialogues.
I also will do the same prompts on two models from different providers at the same time and cross reference the idiots to see if they are lying to me.
Oooh... straight to my toolbox with that one. Cheers.
I forgot another key. The code snippets they give you are bloated and usually do unnecessary things. You are actually going to have to think to pull out the needed line(s) and clean it up. I never copy paste.
I assumed nothing, and evaluated it like I would any other tool. It's ok for throwaway scripts but if the script does anything non-trivial that could affect anything external the time spent making sure nothing goes awfully wrong is at least as much as the time saved generating the script, at least in my domain.
Someone on Mastodon was saying that whether you consider AI coding an advantage completely depends on whether you think of prompting the AI and verifying its output as “work.” If that’s work to you, the AI offers no benefit. If it’s not, then you may think you’ve freed up a bunch of time and energy.
The problem for me, then, is that I enjoy writing code. I do not enjoy telling other people what to do or reviewing their code. So AI is a valueless proposition to me because I like my job and am good at it.
People assumed X, but in one experiment the result was Y.
And in his many experiments the result was in fact X, if it was just 1 on which it was Y?
I don't actually disagree with the article, I'm just pointing out the title is meaningless.
This study is over 6 months old, why is Fortune.com only writing about it now?
A version of this story originally published on Fortune.com on July 20, 2025.
Nevermind, I guess...
I got an email couple of weeks ago with invitation to some paid study about AI. They were looking for programmers that would solve some tasks with and with AI help. I didn't have time or felt like participating but if I did I would 100% work slower on task with AI just to help derail the pro-AI narrative. It's not in my interest to help promote it. Just saying...
Writing code with an AI as an experienced software developer is like writing code by instructing a junior developer.
Without the payoff of the next generation of developers learning.
Management: "Treat it like a junior dev"
... So where are we going to get senior devs if we're not training juniors?
... That keeps making the same mistakes over and over again because it never actually learns from what you try to teach it.
Yep, the junior is capable of learning.
My job believes the solution to this is a 7,000 line agents.md file
Wait till I get hired as junior
Yeah, not all people who enter the industry should be doing so.
Most of this was boomers being boomers and claiming anyone and everyone should code.
Apparently some people would love to manage a fleet of virtual junior devs instead of coding themselves, I really don’t see the appeal.
I think the appeal is that they already tried to lean to code and failed.
Folks I know who are really excited about vibe coding are the ones who are tired of not having access to a programmer.
In some of their cases, vibe coding is a good enough answer. In other cases, it is not.
Their workplaces get to find out later which cases were which.
Very true. I've been saying this for years. However, the flip side is you get the best results from AI by treating it as a junior developer as well. When you do, you can in fact have a fleet of virtual junior developer working for you as a senior.
However, and I tell this to the junior I work with: you are responsible for the code you put into production, regardless if you write it yourself or you used AI. You must review what it creates because you're signing off on it.
That in turn means you may not save as much time as you think, because you have to review everything, and you have to make sure you understand everything.
But understanding will get progressively harder the more code is written by other people or AI. It's best to try to stay current with the code base as it develops.
Unfortunately this cautious approach does not align with the profit motives of those trying to replace us with AI, so I remain cynical about the future.
Usually, having to wrangle a junior developer takes a senior more time than doing the junior's job themselves. The problem grows the more juniors they're responsible for, so having LLMs stimulate a fleet of junior developers will be a massive time sink and not faster than doing everything themselves. With real juniors, though, this can still be worthwhile, as eventually they'll learn, and then require much less supervision and become a net positive. LLMs do not learn once they're deployed, though, so the only way they get better is if a cleverer model is created that can stimulate a mid-level developer, and so far, the diminishing returns of progressively larger and larger models makes it seem pretty likely that something based on LLMs won't be enough.
The real slowdown comes after when you realize you don't understand your own codebase because you relied too much on AI. To understand it well enough requires discipline, which in the current IT world is lacking anyway. Either you can rely entirely on AI or you need to monitor its every action, in which case you may be better off writing yourself. But this hybrid approach I don't think will pan out particularly well.
Yeah, it's interesting how strangely development is presented, like programming is only about writing code. They still do that when they tout ai coding capabilities.
I'm not against ai, it's amazing how quickly you can build something. But something small and limited one person can build. The whole human experience is missing, laziness, boredom, communication and issues with communication,... to actually build a good product that's more than a simple app.
And this gets worse over time because you still have to maintain it.
And as the cherry on top - https://www.techradar.com/pro/nearly-half-of-all-code-generated-by-ai-found-to-contain-security-flaws-even-big-llms-affected
Not surprised.
In my last job, my boss used more and more AI. As a senior dev, I was very used to his coding patterns. I knew the code that he wrote and could generally follow what he made. The more he used AI? The less understandable, confusing and buggy the code became.
Eventually, the CEO of the company abused the "gains" of the AI "productivity" to push for more features with tighter deadlines. This meant the technical debt kept growing, and I got assigned to fixing the messes the AI was shitting all over the code base with.
In the end? We had several critical security vulnerabilities and a code base that even I couldn't understand. It was dogshit. AI will only ever be used to "increase productivity" and profit while ignoring the chilling effects: lower quality code, buggy software and dogshit working conditions.
Enduring 3 months of this severely burnt me out, I had to quit. The rabid profit incentive needs to go to fucking hell. God I despise of tech bros.
Here's the full paper for the study this article is about: Measuring the Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Developer Productivity (PDF).
Thank you, the article is shit