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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 99 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Why is United still allowed to exist?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Obviously, consumers want this or they would switch to a competitor. Free market will take care of this if it’s really a problem. ~/s~

There just isn’t the political will to fix healthcare. And then some people act surprised when their CEO gets gunned down in the street.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 44 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We need a corporate death penalty. If your company murders people it should be dismantled and sold off.

I'd love it if the senior executives also faced charges, but I'd compromise

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Same with regulations being rolled back. I would love to see a 10 billion dollar price tag be marked for every life lost do to a practice a company was required to perform, then was allowed to stop because an administration rolls back regulations. Just because a regulation was rolled back doesn't mean there wasn't a known threat to someone's life. Executives should all receive pre-meditated murder convictions because they were already told it was a danger to the population, and the fines be paid directly to the family's with no ability to declare bankruptcy to default on it. If a new company is started by any of the people involved the unpaid costs should transfer indefinitely ensuring they cannot own anything until they pay off the 10 billion.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

How about we gaol the company and dismantle the execs

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There you go

You can make money but don't screw people, nobody is above the law

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

china is more and more progressive in the last 40 years.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is a very broad term.
Whatever it means I know they don't neglect or renounce their fundamentals.
As my link shows.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant that, compared to itself over time, China is leading in the rate of change toward progressive working class helping changes.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Got it, and true

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

we need owners of said companies to be charge criminally and get jail. including grandma with her 401k (in the form of a fine and record).

do this once and EVERYONE with a 401k will pay attention on day two and start calling stock managers to divest instantly. I do not fund criminal organizations- why should my 401k?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because people were afraid to have the government determined when it is financially infeasible to keep someone alive so they let the free market do it instead.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People thinking that are monsters.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

Or idiots.

The idea was presented in a way to make people afraid to the point where they wouldn't think about what the alternative was.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

I promise you this is standard practice, which is why it’s allowed

Capitalism be like that

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This should be used as evidence for Luigi’s innocence

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 weeks ago

Self defense.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

There's a new CEO you know

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Holy fucking shit. I knew stuff like this was happening. But this is just harrowing. This is why you don't add middlemen into healthcare. They don't have an oath.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

Corporate has already bought up most of your doctor’s clinics. This is why you get 15min, no more, your appointment is gone if you’re 5min late, and may even have a fee charged for missing/not being on time for an appointment. It’s leading to doctor burnout.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doctors work for insurance companies. Don't they have oaths?

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If so, then oaths clearly aren't enough. We need to empower doctors to have more ownership over medical decisions.

This goes back to the heart of the issue of capitalism vs socialism: the people who have the actual expertise to do the actual work need to share in ownership over their work so that the work gets done properly. Doctors should be at the helm of the healthcare industry just like engineers should be at the helm of Boeing.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

They have these doctors signing off on shit to justify denying care. Oaths don't mean shit. It's just words if there are no consequences to breaking them.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

this is actually why healthcare should not be something under capitalism. it should be a community project paid for by the state. “free markets” never existed and capitalism is deadly to begin with; it should not be allowed near health, housing, education, hunger.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And this is why you don’t get universal healthcare. The fact is capitalism thinks you’re too expensive to keep alive. If you’re not putting in more than you’re taking out, at all times, you’re a loss. You are not worth anything except your productivity and what you can provide to your overlords. Put in a lifetime of hard work, have the audacity to live in a human body that ages and slows down, well sucks to suck, healthcare is only to be paid into not to be given to those in need.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

End these fucking corporations

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine if a single person had done what these companies have done. They would be regarded as magnitudes worse than literal Hitler.

But because that person is a corp, no one gives a shit and even congratulates them on being so SUCCESSFUL.

When I say every CEO and board member of every company are horrific, beastial, monstrosities that should have no consideration as to their rights or desires, I mean we all need to go to their houses in the dead of night and do what seems fitting.

We need a mob of millions of feral humans ripping this garbage out by the root. Rip them limb from limb in the fucking streets.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if this news will influence Luigi Mangione's jury.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm hoping that the Defence absolutely rakes United and other Healthcare providers across the coals, showing all the nasty things they get up to. The high profile of the case will allow this stuff to be laid bare to the masses.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago

That is assuming that the defence needs to go as far as defending motive. And it might even be struck down by a relevance objection.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Burn this whole fucking system to the ground

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. The US's entire political system is broken beyond repair (money directly buying political representation, hyper polarization from our two party system) and evil beyond redemption (funding genocide, bombing other countries, and allowing corpos to kill Americans for profit)

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

Well yeah, obviously. They get sued by BlackRock if they don't do that.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

I love how they've gone from scapegoating an "assassin" to scapegoating the company in an attempt to placate the masses

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Someone tell me again why the shareholders, c-suites, boards, and the other owners should not be criminally charged? (according to proportions of ownership)