At current prices that "data center" is going to be one mid-class rig in someones basement.
this post was submitted on 13 Feb 2026
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Great news! I just hope we have enough energy to support them... π₯Ά
we do. this datacenter is in my backyard, as is four hydro plants. we don't have an energy deficit, we just don't have the infrastructure to move the energy to where it needs to be. thus, datacenter in random small town.
Nice to hear! Thanks for the reply.
This is some bullshit that's going to wreak havoc on the already strained energy price crisis we have in Sweden. People in the north are paying upward of almost two thousand dollars a month for electricity during the winter months. It's insane to now see Sweden as some sort of energy haven. Downright irresponsible.
the sudden upswing in prices up north is due to a newly opened export link to finland. this dc is not up north.
fact is we're in line with most of europe price-wise, which is a recent change from the extremely low prices we used to have. this is because of increased connectivity and due to our generation becoming more swingy as we transition to more wind. but we still have a big surplus overall.
what should really scare you is the planned implementation of the eu-mandated "effektavgifter".
Right but if a bunch of data centers are starting to be built in Sweden, the south is going to want even more electricity from the north.
The effektavgifter are also of the devil, yes.
a bunch? where are the others?
I mean if more come in the future...
i mean this one is a bit of a special case. it's being built on an existing industrial lot, the one previously supposed to be used for the northvolt expansion. there has been power-hungry manufacturing on that site since the late 1800's so all the infrastructure is already in place, and as i noted there is generation capability literally a stone's throw away. the closest hydro plant is like 150 meters from the dc.
for me personally, the main benefit to getting industry back onto that lot is that there is also a district heating plant there, which the old paper mill was plugged into. when it closed down, heating costs basically doubled. building a giant radiator paid for by the french there will make those costs come back down.
This is a less bleak view of the situation, which I welcome gladly π Thank you for the info!
Damn, it must be bad if they're paying in dollars instead of Swedish Krona
Ha.
I just translated it to dollars since it's more easily comparable for international reading.
You sure you didn't mean krona? Because 2000 Krona is a lot but sounds easy more realistic than 2000 dollars, considering the conversion rates.
For anyone here that doesn't know:
100 SEK = 9.50 Euro
100 SEK = 8.92 USD
People in Norrbotten are paying 16k+ SEK for January's electrical bill, one person paid over 17k. Which is almost 2000 US dollars.
You have a source on that? Pretty sure we in Finland give some electricity even to Sweden from surplus so that doesn't sound right.
- https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/jamtland/17500-kronor-i-elrakning-john-i-vigge-over-gransen
- https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/norrbotten/elchocken-paret-i-overkalix-fick-rakning-pa-narmare-10-000
- https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/elpriser-i-finland-slar-mot-sverige-rekordkonsumtion-driver-upp-kostnader
- https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasternorrland/tommy-kampar-mot-skenande-elpriser
- https://www.sverigesradio.se/artikel/chock-efter-elrakningen-det-var-nara-att-vi-svimmade
After reading those (good sources btw) - seems it's really only January that has had really high prices in the Northern areas, due to in part the cold front that hit Finland but also from the new power transfer line that's being set up, after which it's expected that Sweden will be taking power generated here. Seems Swedish power generation was also lower than usual January.
We do usually have a surplus, but power consumption here went up both from the sudden cold, nuclear maintenance, and the new sand batteries going up.
Also, some of those places being heated are quite large and older buildings that are undergoing restoration, like a farm.
That said, the data center really only makes sense of it'll be in Southern Sweden, and by the time it's up it'll be years from now. If they don't fix the price issues after February though, y'all should start seriously protesting.
Let's hope, I guess? But it's not the first time this happened, and so it seems likely it will happen again. How many times is acceptable, you know?
No, he means dollars. 2000 SEK is pretty much what I pay per month for the really cheap summer months in southern Sweden. Last month I paid closer to 10 000 SEK.
2000 SEK
really cheap summer months in southern Sweden
RIP south of Sweden β€οΈ
I paid about 800 SEK for electricity and hot water combined, including 25% tax, for November. π
As I understand, renewable energy is booming here in Europe, so it should probably be okay.
Tell that to my electricity bill. Last month cost roughly 1000 β¬. Living in southern Sweden.
What are you powering with that? Mine was 35β¬ in Denmark, though I live in a two bedroom apartment.
Thatβs rough, considering your energy mix. I suppose youβre paying market prices and there were some spikes, right? While Iβm at it, here I have district heating (50 to 70 kWh a day in the coldest months) and gas for cooking (π€¦ββοΈ), and my familyβs electricity usage sits around 10 kWh a day. What is a typical usage there?
Awesome. I've been using Mistral a lot for my own projects lately. It's not quite as fire-and-forget as the more advanced ones but with reasonably small beads tasks and frequent cleanups, it's workable. It's pretty good at writing Rust.
Using Devstral-2 with the vibe client. I'm guessing it's in some sort of free-of-charge testing phase still, because with my yearly pro subscription, I haven't incurred any additional token costs and have been using it quite heavily.
To hell with "AI"!
We don't have AI.
For a company that claims to be EU focused they sure were hiring a lot in Palo Alto in the past 6 months.
I am not into that, but I'm thinking like where can you get talent for such a thing in the yurop?
There's a lot of tech industry talent in the UK and Europe. A massive part of Microsoft 365 Copilot is built in UK, Norway and India. A lot of Google Maps is built in Australia. The talent is spread across the globe and I think because the US tech industry is very dominant there's this illusion that the talent doesn't exist outside the US.
Lol just go to the Chaos Communication Congress
Okay I did not know that. I guess it is true, I know a lot of people with high IT knowledge everywhere. Globally.