Grimreaper

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A loved one dying to motivate the superhero is a pretty lame and lazy trope, and it makes the character who dies just a plot device. That's what Uncle Ben is: a plot device. On top of that, Uncle Ben himself is lame. At least with a love interest dying, it makes sense to want to avenge them and become a superhero to honor that person. If my friend, best friend, or uncle were to be murdered and I had superpowers, I wouldn't lift a finger to try to find the killer. That goes for a lot of superheroes. Even in a new superhero comic called Radiant Black, Radiant Black becomes Radiant Black because his male best friend dies. WHO GIVES A FUCK? I'm sorry—your best friend dying or getting murdered is not enough justification to become a superhero.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ironically an idiot.

This is a take...

 

Anime and nerd fans often call Light Yagami “evil” because of his lies, manipulation, and gaslighting, but rarely apply that same criticism to superheroes—especially Superman. Clark Kent does the same things Light does, just less skillfully. Maintaining a secret identity means constantly lying and manipulating people. Superman justifies it by claiming moral superiority, but if his son Jonathan were a superhero who lied and manipulated his parents the same way Light Yagami does Clark would be furious—even though he’s guilty of the same thing.

 

Anyone new that comes into my life, even if they become my “friends” or hell, even a girlfriend, I couldn’t care less about them and don’t value them. If they have kids, I don’t care about their well-being either. Basically I could not give less of a fuck about anyone. I don’t care about my friends or family members at all. If they are sick, I don’t care; if they die, I don’t care. It’s not even that I don’t “like” them; it’s more apathy than anything else. Don’t care whether they live or die. They don’t care about their children or their well-being. Here are my “emotions” towards people. I either tolerate you, or I’m purely apathetic. Or I just straight up don’t like you.

But I’m going to be in more social situations around people I hang out with – friends, family, etc. – and I need to fake like I care about them.

How do I do that?

 

Anyone new that comes into my life, even if they become my "friends" or hell, even a girlfriend, I couldn’t care less about them and don’t value them. If they have kids, I don’t care about their well-being either. Basically I could not give less of a fuck about anyone. I don’t care about my friends or family members at all. If they are sick, I don’t care; if they die, I don’t care. It's not even that I don't "like" them; it's more apathy than anything else. Don’t care whether they live or die. They don’t care about their children or their well-being. Here are my "emotions" towards people. I either tolerate you, or I'm purely apathetic. Or I just straight up don't like you.

But I'm going to be in more social situations around people I hang out with – friends, family, etc. – and I need to fake like I care about them.

How do I do that?

 

In real life, if someone got a black hoodie and a mask and decided to "fight crime", how successful would they be?

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Is it normal not to care about your friends, uncle, cousins or anyone? Like, you have friends, but you couldn't care less about them and don't value them. If they have kids, you don't care about their well-being either. Basically could not give less of a fuck about anyone. You don't care about your friends or family members at all. If they are sick, you don't care; if they die, you don't care. Is this normal?

 

On August 10, 2024, in Miami, a woman named Macy Lathers caused a deadly crash while high on pink cocaine. She drove a white Mercedes through a red light, creating a three-car pileup that killed Abraham Molina and Jesus Rubio. Abraham’s wife, Juanita, survived but was injured. Do you think Maecee deserves to go to prison? I don't know if she deserves prison time for one mistake.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And no, no rational person just “gets over” someone drunk driving. Drunk driving is a very serious issue. It’s like expecting them to “get over” him attacking people with a knife.

He didn't kill anyone while, yeah, drinking and driving is bad. Like I said, in this scenario, it happened fucking 6 months or two years ago; it's in the past. There is no need to bring it back up, and no, attacking an innocent person with a knife is obviously worse than drunk driving.

I find it very concerning that you think they should be more concerned with who a grown adult dates than with him committing a serious crime. You said yourself, they don’t have a right to forbid a 21 year old from making his own decisions, that includes who he dates.

I don’t think any parent has the right to control their 21-year-old kid. It’s ridiculous that Gemini portrays Clark and Lois as overreacting to Jon being a superhero and lying about it—especially since Clark hid his own identity for 14 years. Then it says they’d “forbid” Jon from being a hero, but they’re fine with him dating women 10–20 years older. So basically, “You can date whoever you want, but you can’t save lives”? That makes zero sense.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They also shouldn’t be okay with him drunk driving

In the story it literally happened either 6 months ago or two years ago any rational person would get over it.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What about Tyler Perry or any other millionaire or billionaire who didn't come from rich families? Do they not still hang out with family or childhood friends?

 

Do children from wealthy families, millionaire families, billionaire families, old-money families, or whatever exclusively date other people who also come from wealthy families? What if a rich kid's dad wasn't rich before they became rich? Like, do you think Tyler Perry's or Oprah's kids only date people from wealthy families despite Tyler and Oprah not coming from rich families?

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Should they in some way prevent him from dating a 31 year old?

No, I don't, but if you are writing Clark and Lois, whether it be for a comic, TV show, fanfic, or whatever, their characters need to be consistent. If you are okay with your 21-year-old dating a 31-year-old, then you should be fine with them being a superhero. If you aren't okay with them being a superhero, then you shouldn't want them dating someone 10 years older than them.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But in the scenario I gave, the drunk driving accident either happened two years ago or 6 months ago, so you would think he would get over it. Also, what does that have to do with Jon being a superhero or not?

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, if Clark and Lois were disrespectful first, then Jon should tell them, "Fuck you and go fuck yourselves." It also doesn't make sense because in season 3 Lois got breast cancer, and in the last episode she decided not to go to chemo three times. Sam Lane said to Clark, "You let Lois miss chemo for an investigation?!" And Clark said, "I didn't let her do anything," so why wouldn't the same be applied to a 21-year-old Jonathan Kent?

 

Google Gemini is horrible when it comes to characterization, and not only that, it tries to justify extremely toxic and abusive behavior. So, I’ll give you an example. There was a TV show on the CW called Superman and Lois. It ran for four seasons. In the show, Clark and Lois have two sons, Jonathan and Jordan. Only Jordan inherited powers.

It ended, but I asked Google Gemini a hypothetical question. I asked, ‘What if Jonathan was 21 years old, he was drinking and driving, and crashed into an armored truck carrying radioactive chemicals, which gave him powers? His 31-year-old girlfriend was murdered by her abusive ex-boyfriend, so Jon goes and beats him up and lets the police arrest him. He becomes a superhero. Clark and Lois find out.’

I asked Gemini how Clark and Lois would react, and it says Clark and Lois would take Jon’s suit, forbid him from being a superhero, and if he refused, would emotionally blackmail him and basically emotionally abuse him until he submits to their will. Ironically, if this did happen in the show and Lois told Jon she ‘forbids’ him from being a superhero, Jon would roll his eyes and tell Lois, ‘Go fuck yourself.’

Clark and Lois would not react like this at all. They aren’t supposed to be controlling abusers. And I love how Gemini is cool with Jon being 21 and dating women 10 years older than him, but being a superhero is where they cross the line. Especially when they were cool with Jordan and Natalie, who are literally young children, being superheroes, but their 21-year-old son can’t? It’s stupid. Why is Gemini making Clark and Lois act like abusers? Clark and Lois, in this situation, are worse or just as bad as the abusive ex-boyfriend who killed Jon’s girlfriend. Why is Google Gemini so bad when it comes to accurate characterization of characters? On top of that why does Gemani glorify abusive behavior and try and justify it? The way Gemani writes Superman makes Lex Luthor look like the hero and honestly maybe Superman does need to be murderd.

It doesn’t matter if Jon was drunk driving; he is 21 years old. Clark and Loid don’t have a fucking “right” to “forbid” anything; they can’t “let” a 21-year-old do anything.

If Clark and Lois try to tell Jon, who’s 21 years old, “You aren’t allowed to do this,” Jon should say one of these things.

“Mind your own business.”

“fuck off”

“Go fuck yourself.”

“Go suck a dick.”

“Fuck you”

Any other combination for “fuck you” and “go fuck yourself”.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 days ago (7 children)

No, I'm not, but it's contradictory; you can't be ok with your 21-year-old son dating a 31-year-old woman but then not be ok with them being a superhero or vigilante.

And even if you had a problem with it, there isn't shit you can do about it.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter if Jon was drunk driving; he is 21 years old. Clark and Loid don’t have a fucking “right” to “forbid” anything; they can’t “let” a 21-year-old do anything.

If Clark and Lois try to tell Jon, who’s 21 years old, “You aren’t allowed to do this,” Jon should say one of these things.

“Mind your own business.”

“fuck off”

“Go fuck yourself.”

“Go suck a dick.”

“Fuck you”

Any other combination for “fuck you” and “go fuck yourself”.

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Did Superman and Lois take issue with the drunk driving part?

It doesn't matter if Jon was drunk driving; he is 21 years old. Clark and Loid don't have a fucking "right" to "forbid" anything; they can't "let" a 21-year-old do anything.

If Clark and Lois try to tell Jon, who's 21 years old, "You aren't allowed to do this," Jon should say one of these things.

"Mind your own business."

"fuck off"

"Go fuck yourself."

"Go suck a dick."

"Fuck you"

Any other combination for "fuck you" and "go fuck yourself".

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

But you shouldn't need any prior knowledge of the show.

If you make Logan Roy, Fire Lord Ozai, Darth Vader, Peter Griffin and Stan Smith look like better parents than Clark and Lois, then you have failed somewhere.

You shouldn't need prior knowledge of the show; it should still know the characterisations if it's researching it.

 

Google Gemini is horrible when it comes to characterization, and not only that, it tries to justify extremely toxic and abusive behavior. So, I’ll give you an example. There was a TV show on the CW called Superman and Lois. It ran for four seasons. In the show, Clark and Lois have two sons, Jonathan and Jordan. Only Jordan inherited powers.

It ended, but I asked Google Gemini a hypothetical question. I asked, 'What if Jonathan was 21 years old, he was drinking and driving, and crashed into an armored truck carrying radioactive chemicals, which gave him powers? His 31-year-old girlfriend was murdered by her abusive ex-boyfriend, so Jon goes and beats him up and lets the police arrest him. He becomes a superhero. Clark and Lois find out.'

I asked Gemini how Clark and Lois would react, and it says Clark and Lois would take Jon’s suit, forbid him from being a superhero, and if he refused, would emotionally blackmail him and basically emotionally abuse him until he submits to their will. Ironically, if this did happen in the show and Lois told Jon she 'forbids' him from being a superhero, Jon would roll his eyes and tell Lois, 'Go fuck yourself.'

Clark and Lois would not react like this at all. They aren’t supposed to be controlling abusers. And I love how Gemini is cool with Jon being 21 and dating women 10 years older than him, but being a superhero is where they cross the line. Especially when they were cool with Jordan and Natalie, who are literally young children, being superheroes, but their 21-year-old son can’t? It’s stupid. Why is Gemini making Clark and Lois act like abusers? Clark and Lois, in this situation, are worse or just as bad as the abusive ex-boyfriend who killed Jon’s girlfriend. Why is Google Gemini so bad when it comes to accurate characterization of characters? On top of that why does Gemani glorify abusive behavior and try and justify it? The way Gemani writes Superman makes Lex Luthor look like the hero and honestly maybe Superman does need to be murderd.

 

He said that in reference to coworkers at your job. Some of the women are "mean girls" who gossip about other people, some guys are bullies (obviously not in an in-your-face way), and some of the adults just act like high school students. The only difference is that some of your coworkers are in their 20s, 30s, or 40s.

Would you say thats accurate?

[–] Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can’t think of any DC characters

Hal Jordan/Green Lantern was a pilot.

John Stewart/Green Lantern was in the military.

Clark Kent/Superman is a reporter.

Barry Allen/The Flash is a CSI (he's basically like Dexter and Masuka).

Black Lightning (Jefferson Pierce) – High school principal

 

Rarely do you see superheroes have a real job and then go fight crime or whatever. Superman is a reporter, Spider-Man is a photographer, Daredevil is a lawyer. But what superhero just had a regular office job or something?

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