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IP only protects those who have the means to defend their IP in court, which is rich people and companies.

False. This shows a lack of knowledge around the topic. Off the top of my head I know a specific case where a small grocery store defended it's IP from Apple. In your world that wouldn't work. I mean how did JK Rowling go from a poor person with a story to a rich author. She had no money to defend her IP.

This take is just wrong. Factually.

As a consumer, you can download the book, listen to a free audiobook, or print it yourself if you want to. The company only gets money if they somehow make better physical version than what others have access to. To me this is not at all akin to ownership or theft.

So if you create a book or song or art piece, you shouldn't be entitled to the money that those make? They should just all be free? I mean sure, but then people will stop doing it, because of it doesn't make money people need to work to pay bills, they can't create.

You're missing how commerce works. A big company can flood the market. They can use better materials and ship faster due to being entrenched.

Like, hey, you could make an iPhone but will you? You can make a movie too, but will it be as good, you can make merch, but will it be as well designed and distributed?

Even in your example, where anyone can make a copy of the book, what about the author? They could pour years and their heart and soul into a book just to make no money, is that ok?

Big companies make money of Shakespeare and the Bible all the time. I don't know why you would think they don't, they very much do.

You're also mixing monopolies with IP. You can have a monopoly with or without IP.

Say you write a book.

A big company can take that book, print it and sell it without you seeing a dime. Then they can sell merch and make movies off your book without you seeing a dime.

It's pretty obvious, but people think IP only protects companies for some reason

What? They still sell things like merchandise and make money from it. You can make money selling Mickey Mouse hats if you don't own the IP. I feel like you don't understand the situation being presented.

You write a book. I make a copy and sell that exact book because I doesn't exist. I just made money off your book. It's that easy.

No one is assuming, you just have bad reading comprehension coupled with an ego that doesn't allow you to do the very thing you're asking. I'm guessing (because you refuse to have an actual conversation like some ego filled boomer) that you think you're cute and clever because "dying is a death sentence", but you seem to miss the part where people said the "penalty of murder" not the "cost of being murdered." Fuck you are dumb.

For the victim, not the murderer. Penalties are for criminals, not victims. Are you ok?

Oh boy, people are just out here being confidently incorrect. Either you think the whole world is the US, or you don't realize that the death penalty is outlawed in some states. Big dumb trying to act big smart.

I'm brain washed? Lol, ok, since you want to make this about the people in the argument and not the topic itself fine, but it's still worth pointing out how you're wrong.

You came across as an I'm 13, and this is a deep post. I get it. You hate rich people; we all do, but you clearly have no idea how IP laws work, thinking it's just the guy with the most money running around stealing stuff lol. You have some fantasy in your head where if we open everything up it'll be all better. Ignoring the reality of how laws and lobbying worry, ignoring how patents work, ignoring how you don't need millions to fight an IP case. I mean how did every famous author make money? They owned their own works. You are sorely misinformed about a topic you have more feelings about than facts.

if rich people are the only ones able to afford litigation to support their copyright

This is %100 not the case. Small mom and pop grocery stores have won cases against Apple. You're just making stuff up, and I'm brainwashed? lol

it might as well only exist for them

No. Fully no. There are tons of authors, artists, and inventors who have made money off their inventions. You live in some other reality where no one owns anything right now. What you're saying is they shouldn't have the sole rights to what they create, you want it to be even EASIER for the rich to take. Because right now, despite what your angsty self might think, that's not how it's happening. And what do we get? Oh, I can make my own iPhone now, wow, yah, I'll get right on that.

You are fighting FOR the rich at this point.

You need to take a breath, educate yourself, and speak on the topic once you know it better instead of ranting about how you feel and think it should be, all from a place of ignorance.

I agree and hope for this. A would were people create to express and no to survive.

Yes! Now this I can get behind. Companies aren't people!

And they can look at any small business, be it product, art, any book anyone writes, and they can flood the market, crushing you and profiting of the thing you made. Can people not see how this goes both ways and how this would destroy any desire for creation, knowing rich people will just take it and stomp you out immediately?

Imagine you write the next Harry Potter book or some shit, you're catching on and getting popular and now it's gone. A different company is printing your book and you don't get any money. They're making movies off your book and you get nothing. You go to stores and see merch from your book that you wrote that you'll never see a dime of. This is the world you want? Where the rich can easily just take anything with no defense from the creator?

IP are things you create, art, books, stories. A person should own the book they write...