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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Y'all realize that llm's aren't ai....right?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“AI” covers anything that so much has the superficial appearance of intelligence, which includes even videogame AI.

What you mean in this case is “AGI” which is a sub-type of AI.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

"AGI" is actually a well defined sub-type of AI. The definition by OpenAI is "AI that can make 200 billion".

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

AI does not have a consistent definition. It wouldn't be wrong to call an automatic thermostat that adjusts the heating based on measured temperature "AI". It's basically down to how you define intelligence, then it's just a computer doing that.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't be wrong

It would though. It's not even to the idea of how we define intelligence, everyone who knows anything about anything has a ballpark idea, and it's not a chatbot. It's just, we colloquialy started using this word to describe different things, like npc algorithms in videogames, or indeed chatbots.
Thankfully nobody uses the term to describe simple algorithms that aren't attached to faces, so we're good on that front.

[–] asmoranomar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This. At some point, everything just happened to be 'AI'. It's stupid.

To put it in perspective, I just watched a YouTube video where someone claimed that they wrote a program to win at minesweeper using AI. All of it was handwritten conditional checks and there was no training element to it. It plays the same way every time, but since minesweeper is random by nature it 'appears' to be doing something different. Worse, to 'win' is just to beat a level under a certain time, not to improve upon that time or improve win rates.

The sad thing is that various levels of AI are/were defined, but marketing is doing a successful job at drowning out fact checkers. Lots of things that weren't considered AI now are. You have media claiming Minecraft is AI because it makes use of procedural generation -- Let's forget the fact that Diablo came out years earlier and also uses it.... No the important thing is that the foundation for neural networks were being laid as early as the 1940's and big projects over the years using supercomputers like DeepBlue, Summit, and others are completely ignored.

AI has been around, it's been defined, and it's not here yet. We have glorified auto-complete bots that happen to be wrong to a tolerable point so businesses have an excuse to layoff people. While there are some amazing things it can do sometimes, the AI I envisioned as a child doesn't exist quite yet.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh yeah, it was Code Bullet, right?
> I wrote an AI that wins minesweeper.
> Looks inside
> Literally a script that randomly clicks random points on the screen until the game ends.

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I agree, but tell that to advertisement departments haha

[–] meme_caster@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what? i thought llms are generative ai

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The term AI is used to describe whatever the fuck they want this days, to the point of oversaturation. They had to come up with shit like "narrow AI" and "GAI" in order to be able to talk about this stuff again. Hence the backlash to the inappropriate usage of the term.