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And a bunch of bloodthirsty libs jumped down my throat for daring to speak against Ukraine and their noble practices of not notifying people that they're going to be doing a false flag operation and also Russia also did war crimes so international law is therefore null and void

And the weirdest part is that nobody seemed to catch that the thing that most upset me was random innocent truck drivers being the ones put at risk in this scheme and nobody even wondering about what would have happened to them if they got stopped and searched by Russian soldiers and labeled as "terrorists" for just taking a delivery job

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (22 children)

That's the whole reason why both are war crimes. Using civilians and civilian infrastructure for military use justifies seeing them as targets, which is wrong because targeting non-combatants is morally reprehensible.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 52 points 23 hours ago (21 children)

justifies seeing them as targets

Yeah people forget, there's no higher power enforcing laws around wars. Only the victor will get to decide what gets punished. The purpose of war crimes is for nations at war with each other have an agreement not to do certain things or use certain weapons.

Once you start committing war crimes, there won't be police knocking on your door to arrest you or a fine sent to you in the mail. The response will come from the other side who have justification to do the exact same shit you just did. You start using civilians as cover? They're going to blow them up. You start blowing up civilians? Their civilians are just going to start attacking your troops. You carpet bomb cities? They will carpet bomb cities. You use chemical weapons? They will use chemical weapons. Etc. Etc.

There is no benefit for the Ukrainians to do this. They are in a losing position already. What's going to happen is Russia will respond with crimes of their own and then they will prosecute Ukrainians for the crimes they committed once Russia has won. There won't be any consequences for Russia itself. The UN won't have a case to build if the Ukrainians did something first. Even if they did, Russia can ignore it the way the US does.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Once you start committing war crimes, there won't be police knocking on your door to arrest you or a fine sent to you in the mail.

Except if you're Slobodan Milosevic, and even then.

In a more just world, and therefore impossible, once a war is over everyone responsible for war crimes –on both sides– would be rounded up and tried. It's the whole reason the ICC and similar courts exist: to prevent individuals from getting away with war crimes, and act as a deterrent for those wanting to do said war crimes to get an advantage in war.

No, the job of the ICC is to imprison african leaders

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