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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 days ago

What about Tibet and Taiwan?

What about Taiwan? Has Beijing already liberated Taiwan and we just haven't heard of it? What exactly are you referring to? If anything the Taiwan situation shows an incredible amount of restraint on their part. Any other country would not be so patient if a vital strategic part of its national territory was allowing hostile foreign powers to militarize and occupy it. China continues to insist on peaceful reunification.

And what about Tibet? Didn't Tibet sign a treaty acknowledging it's a part of China? Were you expecting China not to defend itself against British and American armed violent separatists trying to re-establish a feudal theocracy? Next you'll tell me China is aggressive because it doesn't allow ISIS to establish a caliphate on its territory. A week long police action against separatist insurgents hardly counts as a civil war.

Could we also ask the indians (1962), the vietnamese (1979), and russians

It's telling that you had to go back to before 1980 to find a conflict China was involved in. And none of those wars were started by China, unlike the US's wars of choice. Even in 1979 when China was, in the opinion of most of us here, on the wrong side, they still technically only responded to an attack on one of their allies. The fact that they picked the wrong ally is sad but it doesn't exactly show aggression on their part.

With regards to India, again, China showed incredible restraint. India helped the British and Americans arm violent separatists in Tibet and then launched incursions into Chinese territory. China defended itself and could easily have stayed in the parts of South Tibet they briefly occupied in that skirmish. Yet despite having a very legitimate claim to that territory China made the good faith gesture of pulling out of South Tibet and giving it back to India.

As for the Sino-Soviet border disputes, who exactly are you blaming for them? Are you saying they were all provoked by China? And what did those actually amount to? Basically nothing happened, they were the result of stupid political tensions, nothing more. To compare these nothing-burgers to the US's full fledged wars, regime changes and sponsorships of terrorist insurgencies and brutal military dictatorships is beyond dishonest, it's ridiculous.

You are clutching at straws here bringing up history that many of us here weren't even born when it happened. Show us anything in the last 40 years where China behaved even remotely similar to how the Americans and their Euro lapdogs have done and continue to do.