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Core Elements of Capitalism, Socialism (Primary, Intermediate, and Advanced Stages), and Communism
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This graph is important
It’s based on the writings of professor Cheng Enfu, President of the Academy of Marxism at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) and Director of the Academic Division of Marxist Studies of CASS.
Socialism and communism are not one and done processes. They are gradual changes, both Marx and Lenin have addressed this extensively. We can’t just instantly press the big communism button unfortunately.
Here’s a paper that goes way more in depth on the professor’s definitions: https://guilfordjournals.com/doi/pdf/10.1521/siso.2022.86.2.159
You're making up a personal definition of communism just like you're accusing the tankies of, which is fine. But neither you or the tankies get to assert what communism is or is not.
And no, I'm not conflating communism with authoritarianism. I'm asserting that communism's centrally managed economy tends to collapse into authoritarianism by being highly susceptible to corruption. Again, I've been very careful in my word choice this entire time.
You disagree all you wish, you're disagreeing with ideas I have not asserted. And I dont particularly have a problem with anything you've said outside of terms and definitions. I've mostly been debunking what you've been thinking I've said.
To recap:
Public ownership doesn't have to mean central ownership. There is such a thing as local government.
Communism isn't a centrally managed economy. That's not the definition of communism. The USSR/CCCP never achieved communism, but were stuck at the transitional/intermediate state of socialism. Make of that what you will.