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I disagree that "labor" can never be voluntary. But I also fully agree that labor in a Capitalist system is fundamentally based on coercion.
The thing to me is that "labor" and "doing work" are two fundamentally different things. You can accept a role that someone else needs done in exchange for something, or you can work on things you find important or interesting, or that just needs doing, to maintain yourself and your environment in a broad sense.
You should look up the feminist definition of labor. It includes everything you're talking about and draws a line between public and private labor. Labor =/= work.
why does feminism have its own definition of labor?
i get that women have unique challenges in the workforce but this seems like it should be a universal
It's not about a women's labor it's about everyone, it's just a feminist concept. It's about acknowledging that house work, paid work, unpaid work, are all work. They're all forms of labor. Taking care of a house, kids, aging parents, disabled people are forms of private labor, which feminism goes on to say as a society we value less than public forms of labor. Public forms of labor are jobs. Now I'd rather not discuss the value of private vs. public labor in this forum. Even though this is Lemmy there are still a ton of misogynists here.
My point being that forms of labor aren't as simple as voluntary and involuntary. There are many forms of labor. Most of which I agree with you are involuntary. It's just like every a much more nuanced concept. Which sucks, cause why can't everything be simple?!