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You're presumably middle aged, and you're married with a family. You're not the person the meme is targeting. Way to ignore the first 3 panels.
Should we also show "empathy" to Klansmen who joined up because they claim to feel disenfranchised by society? Give them a pat on the back? No, we tell them why their belief system is backwards and help them turn away from it.
Your idea of empathy is why the Andrew Tates of this world can thrive. Worthless sentimentality and obsession with civility rather than seriously challenging toxic ideology. It's the liberal way.
OK, but you're not actually offering a materially viable alternative to any of the underlying systemic issues that cause either of those problems.
It is also the liberal way to challenge bad ideas, as ideas only and not actually do anything about the underlying material causes & incentives that produce those ideas.
Kick the bastard misogynist influencers off social media platforms and educate young men on having healthy relationships with others starting from school age. Or we can try the tired old idea of debating fascists and hope they act in good faith and defeat them with our kindly words.
Systemic issues is a very vague concept. What causes young men to latch onto misogyny. Poverty? Mental health issues? Lack of meaningful employment options? Or do we circle back to blaming it on women and feminism again?
1000% yes let's do something about it materially. We aren't nearly tough enough on this poison infecting men's minds.
Correct.
The two fundamental things that drive misogyny among men are the intensity of inequality between men themselves (more specifically, the degree to which men with property can assert themselves over men without property), and the degree to which men can be integrated into some kind of productive social relationship with other men & women.
Very few men actually start with the premise that "Women are Dishwashers." That's a political claim that they arrive at after consistently losing out to other more socially, or economically successful men, and subsequently internalizing their position in that dynamic as immutable natural law.