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Or maybe, just don’t be a creep that strips (or remains) naked and tries to get a gig worker to see you naked? You’re a woman at work and a strange man, in an area unfamiliar to you, has tried to engineer a situation where you walk into him being naked. Recording was likely a safety instinct as well as expecting people wouldn’t believe her if she decided to report something.
I don’t think people expecting to work without random men getting naked around them is the problem here.
Are you unfamiliar with the concept of intoxication? Passing out naked is not an uncommon occurrence. I'm sure there are other reasons this could have happened without any ill intent whatsoever.
I will grant you that it is a weird and uncomfortable thing to walk in on as a stranger but calling it sexual assault feels like an insult to rape victims.
If I get drunk and crash into a sidewalk, that doesn’t change the nature of what happened nor my responsibility in bringing it about. Even if he was drunk and got naked, it changes virtually nothing about the situation. I don’t get to go around waving my little guy at women just because I get pissed prior.
I think the term sexual harassment was used not assault (edit: in the article. Regardless assault can mean different things in different jurisdictions). Not holding people who engage in sexual harassment (or assault) to account decreases the safety of women who could be put in that situation daily. It also enables perpetrators by excusing their behaviour. There could be a million explanations for why he was naked, some might even be plausible but more likely the guy is a creep.
Drunk driving is illegal, as is public nudity. Being drunk and naked in your own home is not. Unless something else happened, he didn't do anything strictly illegal.
Something else did happen, he ordered food and had someone coming around to deliver said food and left the door open. Also, he potentially did do something illegal, again from the article:
Indecent exposure is not sexual assault and he was in his home!
It's gross, but the overreaction is ridiculous
Nice. Now we’re at the straight up blaming her and downplaying sexual harassment part of the conversation. Never mind she had video evidence of this incident.
The video evidence either showes her entering a home illegally or a man illegally exposing himself.
The only way to know would be to prove the man's intentions and determine if the door was intentionally left open
Edit: It's come to my attention that there is no evidence she entered the home at all. That's a baseless claim being spread in this thread. The article is vague, and we don't have sources to say one way or another
Since you’ve gone around and replied to 3 different comments with essentially the same thing I’ll reply to this one. In large because I think it’s interesting you’ve chose this comment to reply to, since it’s me pointing out the prior commenter implied “she was probably shit at her job and made everything up”. Which is a completely baseless thing claim.
He was allegedly visibly naked through the open door. Either he left the door open intentionally or not is the issue that a court/police should investigate, i agree with that much. I don’t know when or why we’ve suddenly decided she’s a potential perpetrator here but I doubt she’d be able to be charged with trespassing or breaking and entering, since again, the door was open.
Can you quote the whole of what you're talking about here? I'm not seeing it in the chain. Possibly an edited comment.
That's the bit that I was unclear about. The article was vague and the commentors painted a different picture entirely. If she didn't enter the home then there's clearly no wrong doing on her part.
So that just leaves determining the man's intent, but the police have refused to investigate the case.
Either because they're inept (likely) or there are details we are unaware of.
https://lemmy.world/comment/19982865
Which is unfortunately uncommon in these type of cases.
I agree the former is likely and has been historically. Which is what makes thread like this frustrating because instead of “hey the police should investigate this fully” it’s become people arguing she wasn’t assaulted by their definition and people adding misinformation like “she only saw him naked because she entered the house” from old mate. To straight up accusing her of lying as referenced in the link.
I'll be honest when I saw the words "Welcome to the Internet" I completed skipped over that comment as irrelevant when going through the thread lol.
I'd personally still want more details before casting blame. Unfortunately we'll never get those details. Either details were collected at the scene we dont know about, or it's another failing of the justice system.
I hope she gets her money and more though. Door dash has no buisness withholding that from her.
You'd have to have admission of guilt from the guy to prove anything.
I don't know about you but I don't try to enter stranger's homes regardless of if the door is open or not.
This whole thing rests on "did he intentionally leave the door open with the intent to expose himself" or "did she illegally enter his home and saw him. The door being left open unintentionally". We need a lot more facts to know for sure.
Edit: It's come to my attention that there is no evidence she entered the home at all. That's a baseless claim being spread in this thread. The article is vague on the matter. If he was visible from the door that changes things
You're right it doesn't matter if he was drunk or not.
If she entered his home without permission she's at fault.
If he lured her in to expose himself intentionally then he's at fault.
To the people asking "who orders delivery naked" it takes maybe 2 seconds to throw on shorts and a shirt. Or he could have a robe to put on
Either way we don't have enough details to determine anything. The only thing we have enough facts on is doordash being scummy and stealing money from the driver
i don't order delivery but i've placed many a takeout order naked.
I'm not saying it's not wrong. I'm just saying this is way blown out of proportion. If you see a naked man while working, why are you hanging around. Just leave.
How about we agree that both of you can be correct?
I think the larger point here is the article has presented someone as being a potential victim of sexual harassment; in which she faces punishment from her employers. Yet people are questioning her actions and making excuses for the bloke. I think that’s worth pointing out, not really a matter of “being correct” imo.
Why the actual fuck would we do that tho?