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[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry but this person is treating grapheneos' attacks on other groups as legitimate which throws the entire article into question. If they are happy to provide a platform for graphene's founder's paranoid conspiracies I can't trust the content.

Seems clear there's some questionable shit going on, but the only evidence presented is two YouTube videos which isn't actually a lot. I wouldn't be surprised based on this to hear there are deeper links, but this article is written by someone who thinks tweets and YouTube comments are evidence.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

grapheneos' attacks on other groups

Where Attack? The worst Graphene ever did was say that they don't support certain Phones like FP because they are not updating their OS to their liking

Are you gonna go to Qubes OS next and complain that they are attacking laptop manufacturers (don't officially support Laptops because they don't have an open source UEFI)?

[–] sheinar@feddit.uk 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They also had a culture of accusing anyone who complained about issues or asked questions about why things were done a certain way of being a shill for Calyx, and of there being a coordinated effort by Calyx and others to discredit them. I'm a GOS user, but the lead developer is without a doubt pretty paranoid at least.

Regardless, these accusations against FUTO are pretty concerning.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've been forced into graphene due to calyx' abandonment (and piss poor communication -- "oh we didn't realize people don't regularly check our website in case the entire organization collapses overnight") of it's users this year, sadly. There just isn't an alternative afaik.

On the graphene front I've personally been banned from their matrix chat on several accounts, none of which I actually used to post in their chat -- they did a blanket ban of anyone in the calyxos channel. Not posted there, not posted in graphene, not having actually done anything, they blanket banned (he now denies this ever happened). Which honestly given how many times I went on to see him uncontrollably ranting at people was probably for the best. He and his most ardent supporters are a brigade of trolls.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wow you're very uninformed. May want to read up first.