There we go, farawell grayjay then!

WHY. GODDAMN WHY is it lately that any organization behind products i like turn out to be extreme assholes? we're on a streak atm i feel like

Son of a removed! I'm so fucking tired of this... Everywhere you look you gotta examine EVERYTHING about a company/group because they might be fascists now...I love Grayjay, it was working so great and I loved the proclaimed mission...I was even trying to get FCast to work since I lost casting ability when I moved to Linux...

I'm just gonna take a break over here for a bit.

They're openly disdainful of all things Open Source and OSI, and their software is not Open Source.

They're a fully for-profit company using consumer rights kind of rhetoric to manipulate people in service to FUTO's own pocketbook. Don't fall for their use of the .org tld or promises to "never abuse customers".

I've written many times about what assholes FUTO is. I'm fully convinced they're way more part of the problem than part of the solution and they're not to be trusted.

They've soured me on Rossman. Back when he was doing coverage of things like the court cases around right to repair and tractors and stuff, I watched a few videos of his and thought he was awesome. And then he got involved with FUTO and started billing Grayjay as "Open Source" and I've gotten sufficiently disillusioned with FUTO that I haven't followed Rossman at all. I've got coworkers changing their avatars to Clippy and shit, and I believe their hearts are in the right place, but I can't in good conscience really get behind anything or anyone associated with FUTO.

Edit: Oh. I honesty didn't even see this OP was a link to an article. Lol. Now I'm very interested to go read that article.

Edit 2: Shite. I've now read the article. I knew FUTO was assholes in a lot of different ways, but now I know how deeply, completely irredeemable they really are.

I've always been an outspoken skeptic of FUTO (check post history) and their bizarre campaign against free software, but I didn't know they were this bad. Yikes

Shit I really liked them. Their keyboard is incredible and Grayjay is hard to replace on desktop. But I'll get started on replacing them. Any ideas on a good keyboard that's open-source? Not anysoftkeyboard or mantis. Tried them.

Why does every mobile keyboard developer have some controversial shit. I just want to text in peace.

Wolf also was spouting about how great Trump is and how "woke" shit is ruining society or whatever in January IIRC. I briefly trawled through their social media when I was investigating their keyboard, Grayjay, and Immich and promptly decided to never, ever give them money.

Note that their keyboard doesn't require network (at least as of now), so if you don't give them money or promote it to other people, they don't really benefit.

EDIT: Also, there are claims Rossman has a Kiwi Farms account and is at least somewhat active there. I haven't investigated those very thoroughly though.

I've always had a weird feeling about FUTO, but I thought them giving money to open source projects can't be that bad. Now I hope they don't fuck up Immich.

Aw man I knew there was something wrong here. I gave them money for the keyboard and the voice talk and immich bcz I was a Rossman fan. They played him and me. Fuck these fascists.

FUTO is more or less openly fascists

FUTO is also involved with Immich 🫤

Wait is Louis still attached to the project? I thought he left to focus on a new company.

I'll take a look at the interviews later tonight.

A few minor items stuck out as a bit disingenuous to me:

The donation page that FUTO used includes this explanation: “This offer is for individuals, and may be available to small organizations on request. Commercial entities wishing to be listed as sponsors should inquire by email.” It’s pretty clear that there are special instructions for institutional donors who wish to receive musl’s endorsement as thanks for their contribution.

It DOES say that, but literally only for the "monthly contribution > 150 section. For a one time grant of 1000 dollars, it doesn't appear to say anything.

FUTO appears to list efforts it has donated to (and use their name/logo), under the title, "Our sponsored grant programs". Which to me seems more of a semantic argument of whether they can say they've donated to something or not.

The inclusion of a logo without permission is a good critique, nonetheless. Likewise, if they are lying about donating to some of these projects, that is a problem.

• The author makes a point of complaining about a video posted to odysee. There are not many great options for posting videos outside of Youtube. That FUTO would post videos to multiple other youtube alternatives, including odysee and peertube does not seem like a surprise to me. Not saying anything about the video though, until I've sat and watched.

EDIT: Apparently louis left futo some number of months ago, thank you to another user for letting me know in a reply below

This is informative, and unfortunate.

I will be honest, I don't really expect louis will wade into this issue at all, since he seems to be very uncomfortable with any of the "political" or partisan aspects of the issues he covers.

I can empathize with why one might be that way, but I hope I'm wrong, it would be rather disappointing.

Maybe it's time for me to open some feature requests on the helicopter repo for futo keyboard features I'd really miss if I left it behind... It'd be good for both projects to be feature rich and competitive anyway

Gross. Fuck FUTO.

Maybe Louis Rossman will see this and beat FUTO back into shape? Maybe? Please? I just want one good outcome here!!

Sorry but this person is treating grapheneos' attacks on other groups as legitimate which throws the entire article into question. If they are happy to provide a platform for graphene's founder's paranoid conspiracies I can't trust the content.

Seems clear there's some questionable shit going on, but the only evidence presented is two YouTube videos which isn't actually a lot. I wouldn't be surprised based on this to hear there are deeper links, but this article is written by someone who thinks tweets and YouTube comments are evidence.