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I’m a queer trans woman, and consequently I exist in spaces where positivity about “sex work” is compulsory. It is very tiresome. God help you if you decide to point out that being a sex slave for rent as a day job seems dehumanizing or horrific, because that’s not very progressive of you!

Kind of shocking and ridiculous that these so called feminists fret endlessly over misogynistic messaging in media, the objectification and commodification of women’s bodies, and sexual exploitation in workplaces, but turn into free market libertarians over the distillation of this violence into an industry apart.

All jobs involve selling your body!

No they don’t! I work in a factory. It’s not always pleasant, but when we say “corporate is really bending us over on this overtime,” this is at least a metaphor. My legs hurt from working twenty days in a row, but no one raped me. Are we living on the same planet? Yes, I am using my body to work. This is actually an extremely superficial similarity. I cannot believe this needs to be litigated.

Sex work is part of Queer history!

I find this offensive. Picking cotton is part of Black history, too. Wholesome!

Criminalizing sex work only hurts sex workers!

This is true, but legalizing it won’t help anyone but the existing capitalist class within the industry. The only way to help sex workers is to give them ways to escape. You won’t see me calling the cops on them.

Sex workers should unionize!

A statement dreamt by the utterly deranged. How are they gonna strike? How are they gonna prevent scabbing? Is the economy gonna collapse if your demands aren’t met? Please show your work.

Genuinely, this might be a psyop.

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[–] Pieplup@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You seem to be confusing the idea of sex work and prositution they are not the same thing. Sex work can be prositituion but it can also be things like only fans or being a pornstar. It could techincally extend to further things but generally it tends to be used for prostitiuion and pornography. I think something you are confusing is this is not about sex work itself, but the misogynistic and exploitative ways sex workers are treated. Shaming sex workers for being sex workers is afurthering of the system of misogyny and patriarchy. Being pro sex worker is not about being pro sex work but about being pro sex worker. About being against discrimination against sex workers and wanting to reduce exploitation of sex workers.

You literally say you aren't selling your body despite literally selling manual labor direclty using your body. If prostituion is selling your body doing manual labor is selling your body too. Like if you were a programmer or something that is more aobut intellectual labor than physical labor you might be able to make an arguement here but you are very literally selling your physical labor.

Sex work is part of queer history is more similiar to the idea of bdsm bieng queer. It's not so much that it's inherently lgbtq, but like drag races, bdsm (and to a lesser extent kink in general) and sex work have goals that often align because the samea puritan reactinoaries who target one group tend to target the others. It's comparable to saying socialism is part of black history, it is not comparable to say cotton picking is part of black history. Socialists are a gruop who often fight alongside black people and black peopel are a part of, who often share the same goals as black people that being liberation from capitalistic imperialism.

Legaliziation of something definitley doesn't only benefit capitalists. I'm going to assume you are talking about prostituion cause generally in the west pornography isn't legal and considering your post history manuerisms and the place on the internet i am on, you probably are from the united states. In terms of prositution, things that are legal are easy to regulate because they aren't forced to the black market. in the same way that legalizing drugs makes it safer to use drugs legalizing prostitiuion woudl make it safer to engage in it cause it would be subject to regulation. Also, while it can ins ome circumstnaces be better ot be in prison than not be in prison generally speaking people rpefer to stay out of prison, a such umm. not being put in prison for prosittiuion definitley benefits sex workers.

I feel like there also definitely needs to be aline drawn between coercive sex work and willing sex work which you do not seem to be drawing line with. There is a real difference between doing sex work because you find it enjoyable, or doing it because you think it's a good way to make money, and doing it cause you are being forced to do it via sex trafficking or it being your only way to survive. The concept of sex-worker exclusionary reactionary feminsim is about excluding sex-workers from liberation from misogyny and patriarchal marginalization, by subjecting them to shaming and discrimination they are often faced with.

Adult film stars literally already have a federally recongized union in the us. There are sex worker unions all across the globe. So like your point that it's deranged to think they should unionize is a bit silly, because they literally already have unions. The Adult Perfomance Artists Guild. There's also unions for general sex workers including prostitutes. Sex work unions already are a thing and have been a thing for a while.

It's sex worker exclusionary reactionary feminism not sex-work exclusionary reactionary feminism. It is also oppressive and furthering the system of patriarchal misogyny to deny or ignore the women who enjoy sex work. And shaming the people who think sex work is an easier way to make money than a regular 9-5, is not really addressing the problems that cause them to feel taht way and is only creating an oppressive attitude towards those people.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, I don’t agree but I hear what you’re saying. I wanna clarify I’m not interesting in judging sex workers. I’m just gonna speak on a couple points.

Selling my body and selling my labor are two completely different worlds. The factory managers are only interested in my ability to perform a series of discreet tasks to keep the line moving. They don’t care how big my tits are, because that’s not part of the job. It’s about my work, not my body. This is not a superficial point. I hope this is obvious. Do I really need to explain that this is safe, dignified, and secure, and sex work isn’t?

About the cotton picking thing, my people have for several generations been forced to the absolute margins of society. We were barred from all traditional occupations for our nonconformity. We served as erotic curiosities and human sex toys for misogynists and rapists not because we organically loved doing it or thought it was a good idea, but because we needed to in order to survive and there were very few other options. We endured decades if not centuries of horrific violence and humiliation from people who hated us for even daring to exist, but were more than happy to get off by using us as sex slaves and beating us to vent their shame after the fact. Yes, it is like picking cotton. This is a dark chapter of our history. And even now, you and other queers (I see the pronouns) reflexively associate ourselves with weird kinky sex and the associated puritanical reactionaries who hate us for our alleged perversions.

You are a human being. You deserve decent work and to live in mainstream, polite society, and your sexual life is not for display or critique. Have some pride.

[–] Pieplup@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 days ago

You do not have to sex work if you don't want to. There are people who exist who legitimately enjoy sex work, especially creating pornography though. Factory work historically and even to a lesser extent contemporarily is rather unsafe. I don't see why sex work has to be unsafe and insecure. Dignified is kind of a vague idea that is very subjective. Yes you do as i genuinely do not udnerstand how sex work is less safe than factory work. If you were talking about something an office job i could maybe get your point but factory work, no. There are considerable dangers with both professions which can be mitigated by taking the right safety measures.

I don't understand what do you disagree on, The whole point i'm making is that judging sex workers is a form of misogyny and oppression and must be opposed to liberate women from patriarchy. Being pro-sex worker means opposing coercive sex work.

I don't associate lgbtq with kink, however, there is intersectional alliance between kinksters, sex workers, drag performers and the lgbtq community. It's an alliance of convience, enemy of my enemy is my friend. They are not nessicarly related althogh kink adn sex work often overlap and so do drag perforemrs and lgbtq.

I can't work or live in mainstream polite society i have severe autism.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Legalisation does not make something safe to use or even easy to regulate guns, cigarettes, e-cigarettes, junk food etc

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Criminalization however not only injects cops into an extremely marginalised group, but gives them direct oversight over their livelihood. It pushes the entire market beyond the law into completely unfettered capitalism.