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I've been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (46 children)

That's not the part people have an issue with, the part where their users deny genocides, call everyone that has a less extreme left opinion of politics Nazis, end up being so "anti-racism" that they're racists themselves and take all critics as personal attacks, that's what people have an issue with.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

The “Uyghur genocide” is bullshit Atlanticist propaganda, and English-language Wikipedia is basically NATOpedia in its slant on the topic, so yes we will deny it. It’s a product of the new Cold War propaganda campaign against China.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Here are some properties of any conspiracy theory worth it’s name:

  • Closed Ideological Systems: They provide an all-encompassing explanation for various events or states, with everything fitting into their worldview.
  • Immunity to Facts: Any contrary evidence is dismissed as false or considered part of the conspiracy.
  • Enemy Construction: They tend to draw a clear line between "us" (those who "know the truth") and "them" (the supposed conspirators).
  • Adaptability: Conspiracy narratives can change and incorporate new "evidence" or events to maintain their credibility.

It matches for QAnon and the MAGA crowd as well as the lemmygrad crowd.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not having the self awareness to realize this applies to anti-communists, not communists/MLs as they use scientific reasoning.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just to understand what you are saying, do you say communists apply scientific reasoning?

[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, Marxism is based on a scientific methodology called historical materialism. It's too complex to be explained in a single comment, but it has an internal logic and methodology which proposes to analyze social systems in general, but especially capitalist societies in particular.

You can't use the scientific method used in the natural sciences because you can't put a society in a lab to study it. Social sciences require a methodology apart from the natural sciences, and Marxism has proposed historical materialism, which is very consistent and coherent approach, based on the Hegelian dialectical logic with materialism as a principle.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, the foundation of most communists reasoning is based on sociology.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's very abstract and doesn't mean much. With as many words you can say capitalism is based on scientific reasoning.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Its not abstract at all, 'Marxism' is an entire field in sociology and is recongised + fundemental to understanding sociology.

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