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The drama and accusations the GrapheneOS developers are spewing and engaging in are giving me a bad taste in the mouth and make me doubt the OS’s reliability am I the only one?

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[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not as bad a taste as the French government is giving me.

If its do I trust GOS or a confirmed pro chat control governments side of the story, its an easy choice.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are many more sides than those 2. GOS is screaming about a new "harrassment" campaign every week.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Knowing nothing of the situations details, when you're a thorn in the side of the most powerful interests on the planet,it seems reasonable that a small group would face deliberate, concentrated pressure from business to legal and the state and any other mechanism. That's generally what power does, assuming the little guy isn't subsumed.

What is the evidence of foul play by GOS, or why would they not have a pretty extreme bias of support?

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think everyone would love some evidence here, but so far it was one journalist from one newspaper talking to one cop that said criminals are using GrapheneOS because it destroys evidence. Afaik Daniel didn't post any notification, inquiry or general communication he received from any government official or agency...

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

from business to legal and the state and any other mechanism.

I'm not referring to any of those "mechanisms", I'm referring to basically the entirety of the privacy/security/sovereign communities. They disparage other Android "privacy" platforms and communities on a regular basis, then claim to be victims of "targeted attacks" from those communities. Louis Rossman and Techlore are also 2 people who have also been accused of "harassment" without evidence. Just for starters.

[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Their past dramas are irrelevant to this issue.

Giving into a straw man argument such as their other dramas somehow devalue what's going on now, only plays into the French propaganda campaign.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're not irrelevant, they're both symptoms of the same problem. The Developer Who Cried Wolf.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am visiting the forum daily for like a year now, and this is just a made up lie.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who said anything about a forum?

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

where is the screaming happening then, if you dont even see it in the offical forum

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 22 hours ago

Look at their social accounts. Half their posts are complaining about some sort of "harrassment". They claim their branding was being used to sell these devices without any evidence. They claim this is a "state-sponsored attack" without any evidence.