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The drama and accusations the GrapheneOS developers are spewing and engaging in are giving me a bad taste in the mouth and make me doubt the OS’s reliability am I the only one?

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[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So yeah, it seems like he accuses everyone of persecuting and harassing him, but in those videos there are several examples of what he considers persecuting and harassing. Both channels were highly supportive of the project and actively promoted it, but because they would also promote other projects and do benchmark tests, they were "spreading misinformation", "being biased", "campaigning against him" and so on. And in the second video he accused the guy of campaigning against him just for saying "This is informative, and unfortunate" about the first video lol. So him being a "victim" is just his lack of proper medication, because anyone who asked him about such attacks, if he had prints or so, was also accused of attacking him lol

https://youtu.be/Dx7CZ-2Bajg
https://youtu.be/4To-F6W1NT0

Undoubtly GrapheneOS is the best project out there, so yeah, this is unfortunate.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why you write all that without mentioning that he stepped down as the project head after this.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

if it's not the same guy running the acc then my bad.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Sry I dont know, i think it is the same guy? i just mean they stepped down as the project lead in 2023, and are now a director https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/daniel-micay-publicly-steps-down-as-project-leader-of-grapheneos/12677

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Strange, I put the same link in one of my comments and a mod removed it.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

OR, France is an evil, genocidal, ethnostate full of pedophiles, so we should maybe apply our Israel-tinted glasses and presume France to be the villain until we have concrete proof otherwise rather than blaming the victim.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

None of the content above has anything to do with France - but he did take the opportunity to claim two other projects based on France are persecuting him as well, so he kinda has a pattern. As I commented to some other user in the other post, it’s The Boy Who Cried Wolf problem - those two videos are full of documentation of his modus operandi.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He is literally claiming that the French police and state are behind this campaign against Graphene, and I believe him knowing how the French are, but believe what you want...

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, those videos aren’t about this French stuff, but about him claiming every other Android project is after him and that everyone who asks too much about his project is after him. The first video is from 2021 and the other from 2023. No relation to him claiming the French government is after him now.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then why present this as recent concern about the project if it's a personality trait going back years and unrelated to the French smear campaign I suspect you are financed by?

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What's the "French smear campaign"? Where do I get paid to participate?
So far all I've seen is a single newspaper making an article about how criminals like GrapheneOS, a clickbait even Linus used on his channel - you know what, I suspect Linus is being financed by the French as well!

As for why: Those videos show how the "drama and accusations" work. The Boy Who Called Wolf.
If France is becoming hostile to privacy though, great that he is moving out, GrapheneOS is still by far the best mobile project for privacy. It would probably benefit greatly if its main dev didn’t spend so much time on social media.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, it would also benefit it if the French state weren't going after a civilian project... I will grant it's a lot, but how would YOU react to a G7 member state going after you with a smear campaign?

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I don't think that one cop that one journalist interviewed is a representative of a G7 country, I actually believe he is representing the whole NATO! Run Daniel! Run!

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Sure sure first it was the CalyxOS guys, then youtubers and now the French Government. Lets say it is true I don't believe him cause he's a crazy asshole.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Guys an asshole and has always been one.