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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We ALREADY live in a do nothing state, where private and foreign interests just YOLO across us with no state to advocate for us.

This is wrong. We have a strong police force. Take squatting for example. The anarchist view would be, if you don't use a house in any form, it isn't yours anymore and someone else can take it. The neoliberal police state will force you out of it. The state enforces private and foreign interests. You can't tell me that ICE is a sign of a do nothing state to take another example.

[–] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is already effectively a private police force, intended to profit private prison concerns, not benefit the state, ICE more than anything.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

What is your understanding of what a state is? Because correct me if I'm wrong, I don't live in the US, but ICE and police in general is funded by tax money, right?

What tankies and anarchists will agree on is that liberal states, like the US, work in the interest in the ruling class which is capitalists. It's always about the rich, always has been.

What anarchists want isn't the abolition of the state – period – but the abolition of all hierarchies, including capitalism and private firms (and obviously all states, including Bolshevik ones). Anarcho capitalism is an oxymoron.