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[–] Iunnrais@lemmy.world 64 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

Flat earthers don’t believe in a flat earth. What they actually believe is that Satan is fighting a war for the minds of people, and education is a tool of satan to lead you away from god. All other nonsense they spew stems from that— they don’t believe the earth is flat because evidence shows it, they find evidence to support the earth being flat because the education system, which they believe to be from Satan, tells you it’s spherical.

And most (but not all) flat earthers have moved on to the next conspiracy that supports their central belief (Satan is fighting a war for your mind) and don’t care much about flat earth anymore. Flat earth was never the point, not being swayed by Satan is always the center.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 minutes ago

Naw, there are atheist flat earthers

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 49 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

After a few years of marriage, it came to light that my wife thought the earth was flat. It wasn't some religious thing or cult thing, she had no affiliations. She just came to that conclusion based on visual cues in the world (like ground looks flat) and believed it without it ever being challenged in it.

It came up when she mentioned that a plane fkying near the sun must be getting hot, and I'm like Whaa? I explained the sun is so far outside the earth that that plane isn't feeling much different than us. She revealed she though the sun was inside the earth (like we lived in a snow globe on a flat planar surface) and the sun just went down behind the mountains at night like half hour away.

I was stunned. We had a 4hour talk about the earth as a planet and the solar system and how gravity works.

She curled up in a fetal position and had an existental crisis for the rest of the day.

Somehow she missed school for the gravity, solar system etc. And I'd destroyed her entire core belief system; that she had developed herself.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is really fascinating to me. Do you mind my asking, with no intended disrespect, how intelligent your wife is? And did she have any kind of unusually isolated situation for much of her life?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

😀 I haven't IQ tested her. As a note I'm what she considers a smart engineery computer guy, but she can beat me at almost every game of Scrabble (like 400 vs 250). She can beat me at Tetris every time. She has played this 1010! android game for 3 years straight and not died once. Which is incredible to me. So she has reasoning skills and planning, and some abstract shape solving ability that is very tuned.

But she has zero science background, grew up Catholic, where god did everything, so she never thought critically about the humans on a planet situation.

But she doesn't pay a whole lot of attention to things outside of her realm. So maybe it is an attention issue not an intelligence issue. i.e. she saw this red car go by and said thats nice and a bit different looking. I said yeah it's our neighbours down the street She said I've never noticed it, how do you know its the same car? So I said: it's had the front emblem taken off and re painted. Suspension is lowered, there is a performance parts logo on driver rear quarter window, it has smooth rims without a lot of cutouts, and a black subtle wing added on the tail. When she asked how I knew all that I said because we see it everyday on our evening walk together. For her she's walked by it 100s of times without remembering it ever being parked on our street.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What were your core talking points and structure that you managed to teach gravitational theory and heliocentrism in 4 hrs?

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Well I had to explain it as if it were a kids class. We didn't get into deep theory , constants, equations type stuff. Just overall concepts.

Saying earth surface was round and each country gets different day and night sequences etc, she immediate went to why aren't Australians dangling off if they are at the bottom. So we had to go over center of gravity and gravity itself.

Which led to the Sun and moon being outside the earth. And I had to talk about the immense distances and speed of light concepts. (Since she thought she could get to the sun in about 45 minutes)

Then the questions came about why, if the earth rotates for day and night, aren't people flying off. So I had to go over gravity and inertial laws. Referencing something she knew like being in a car and dropping something, it drops relative to you and doesn't fly back at 100km/h ( inertial frame of reference stuff).

She was obviously skeptical still, especially about stars being distant suns.

And then she came to the conclusion of: how did we get here, if we are tiny spec in the universe on a planet. So we touched on evolution theory.

We eventually got her kids solar system books, and watched some good documentaries on netlix about these subjects and the one about the stages the earth has gone through.

She eventually understood the concepts, but still though we were trying to trick her. Until she went skydiving and realized "the air is 3D" ( her words ). All along she saw the sky as a background 2d backdrop on the INSIDE of the snow globe earth.

I don't know how she missed this concept most of her life, I guess her circle just didn't include people that talked about science stuff, and she took her cues from what she could see...flat ground, sky seems far away, sun is tiny but looks like it hits the mountains and water.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago

Whenever someone curls up in a fetal position and has an existential crisis, I KNOW that they are doing something right.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago

But hey, she listened. Thats something most never do.

[–] Iunnrais@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I think your wife’s case was actually significantly different from “flat earthers”, as a community. There’s ignorance, which can be corrected with knowledge and information and reasoning, and there’s willful defiance, which cannot. The very fact that she was freaked out and had a crisis, which enabled facts to enter her head, demonstrates that.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes, the true flatearthers deny what they are hearing and dig in deeper

[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 3 points 4 hours ago

Agree, and if earth was indeed flat, these people would claim it was a sphere.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

did you tell her if the sun was so small it can fit inside the earth, everything wouldve been vaporized near its vicinity, let alone the gravitational effects being to a object that small and that close to it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 56 minutes ago

She wasn't initially at that level to comprehend the sun as an object with intense heat and super mass. She saw the sun as a lightbulb inside the earth dome.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Also, they believe the earth is flat because the Bible says so; and the earth is young because the Bible says so, and that science is the devil’s work because it contradicts a book written by Bronze Age goat herders retconned by a guy in the Iron Age that got killed for telling the Roman’s he was king of the Jews.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

This is one of my favorite summaries of just how ridiculous religion can become. Only thing I want to find a way to add would be a condemnation of monotheism. Seems that had a whole lot to do with how the concept of religion has become so corruptible. Instead of the point being the betterment of your own tribe it becomes about how every other tribe is less than you.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

yeah. its ridiculous. Rather than accept that there's some inaccuracies and that parts of the bible contain mistakes and say something like "but most of it is true" .... they double down, triple and quadruple down. They have to get increasingly improbable theories to explain how all this evidence isn't really real. Fossils are planted by satan, to lead people astray; there's a massive World Order whose sole job is to keep this secret for some strange reason.

like. they could just build a rocket and launch it into space and see for themselves. Or some really simple experiments involving sticks and shadows. that allowed them to determine the distance of the sun from the earth, it's circumference, and can be replicated with some lumber and fifty bucks in the gastank.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Technically, this isn't even a case of religion going crazy. The flat Earth conspiracy actually started out in the German Nazi party and were eventually pushed out because even the Nazis thought they were too crazy.

Notice how many of them mention a vague "they" as the ones maintaining the conspiracy. That's them referring to Jewish people. While this is notmal for most conspiracy theories, few directly originated from the Nazis.

If you want more detail, there's a couple episodes of Behind the Bastards explaining it. I recommend giving them a listen

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

they don’t believe the earth is flat because evidence shows it, they find evidence to support the earth being flat

Similar with the anarcho capitalist types

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

exactly like cult beliefs. dont believe with your eyes and ears.