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[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You've got it backwards. It's the threat of anti-trust against Google's ownership of Chrome that puts Firefox at risk. Google has pretty much always supported / paid Firefox either to have Google as the default search or more direct support to stave off the anti-trust claims.

However, if Google has to sell / spin-off chrome, there is no longer as big of a reason to fund Mozilla and that's why you're seeing Moz scramble to find new ways to find funding. This AI push is no doubt a desperate attempt to lure in investor dollars as they're reading the room and see that their current funds will likely disappear in the coming years

Edit: spelling

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Finally a useful comment! Thanks!

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You take out the c-suite and other top executives and the demand for funds in Mozilla diminishes dramatically.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If by dramatically you mean by <1% then sure. Their problems are much larger than executive compensation

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In 2018, Baker received $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla.[16] In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, Baker's salary was more than $3 million. In 2021, her salary rose again to more than $5.5 million,[17] and again to over $6.9 million in 2022.[18

That's just one of the C-dipshits.

According to Mozilla, roughly 2/5 (that's 40%) of its expenses were to pay leadership.

And what do we get from this highly paid leadership workforce? Gross mismanagement, failure to capitalize on services, services that are cancelled prematurely eroding customer confidence, terrible marketing...

But I'd love to see how you arrived at less than a percent.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nowhere in this financial statement does it state leadership / executive compensation just that overall payroll expenses for 2023 were $328 million - I fear you're misreading the financial statement

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fear you can't read tables.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I fear you have no idea how to read a financial statement

Total expenses for 2023 were $496 million (plus income tax puts it at $511 million). Total salary expenses were $328 million, approximately 66% of all expenses. On the financial statement, there is absolutely no mention of executive compensation so no clue where you're pulling this line that executive compensation made up 40% of all expenses.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have highlighted it to give you a fighting chance. Maybe this time you can muster the faculties to read it.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That isn't executive pay lol "Management and General" includes real estate costs, all general.operating expenses, all admin staff (think HR, Legal, finance, accounting)- basically all back office

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can't source your claims, you can't read sources given to you, you can't even do basic text interpretation. What can you do? Who spoon feeds you and cleans your bottom when you go potty?

Shoo, cheeto-stained troll! And don't come back until you've learned how to debate in good faith.

Edit: fuck me, how have I not seen that you're an ML idiot before? Here I was, trying to extract milk from a rock.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, take two steps back and try to make sense of your own claim - that $197M somehow equates to executive pay and the CEO, the highest paid person, makes $7-9M... Do they have the largest executive team ever and they're all making the same as the CEO?

Learn how to read and understand a financial statement and stop trying to claim that G&A = executive pay

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still waiting for your 1% math.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure! So take a look at their Form 990 which details the executive pay. The total was $9.9M which is 1.9% of total expenses. Speaking of the CEO specifically, their comp was $6.25M which is 1.2% of total expenses

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now cite my words that say 40% is executive pay.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This u?

According to Mozilla, roughly 2/5 (that's 40%) of its expenses were to pay leadership.

Unless "paying leadership" now includes real estate costs, marketing, legal, consultants, etc....

Not sure why you're so wound up on this, you read the financial statement wrong which isn't a huge deal, not sure why you're so adamant to argue this point

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not going into your ass to find where you got real estate from. The other line items in your list figure under program as well.

But congratulations, you just proved that your figure is wrong ("<1%"), and that you can't read (equating leadership costs with executive pay). You can now have a cookie.

[–] lps2@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

You got me there, I was .2+% off on my rough estimation. Have a good day man