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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)
[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you're using Arch, the AUR package works well

I'm fully aware of the joy of containers, but I just don't want all that extra faff

[–] calculate@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The additional software required to run it in a container plus its configuration, on top of Immich's configuration.

Just install & configure Immich, done.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thats.. Just.. Docker compose.. You copy, paste, docker-compose up and you're done..

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or... install immich

Done.

No need to map internal & external ports, wrestle with permissions (or... good grief, run the container as root!), etc, etc.

It's just... less faff.

Plus I save all that additional disk space, not having to install docker! 😉

Don't get me wrong; Containers, chroot jails, Type-1 & Type-2 hypervisors all had their place in the history of my systems, I just don't see it as a necessity.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

I see. I still prefer docker for the semplicity tho.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Not on NixOS!

services.immich.enable = true;
[–] idriss@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

I am curious why not docker? it s pretty convenient in my setup (docker compose + traefik). If I need to migrate it s really simple, if I am to nuke a service just bring it down and delete the path.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm planning to do it with podman. It's supposed to be quite easy to convert between the two.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm, works without problems in rootless podman.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Can you give me some pointers? I'm still new to docker and podman; hoping to get this going without too much learning curve to start with!


Edit: Thanks to InnerScientist's instructions below, plus some extra, I got it working. A 5-day-old lemmy comment is probably lost forever to anyone else who wants help, but just in case, here's some pointers.

  1. I cross-referenced with the official docker compose file, and two other quadlet examples/guides, neither of which worked on their own for me. I used InnerScientist's files below as my base. Other guides:
  1. Comments need to be on their own line (or deleted), not at the end of the line as below
  2. The environment file from official docker instructions needs some more lines, including duplicating with correct names for the database container (can you put referenced ones in a quadlet like in the docker compose? I don't know)
  3. The env file also needs DB_HOSTNAME and REDIS_HOSTNAME, which for me were systemd-immich-database and systemd-immich-redis (you can find the names with podman ps, when they're running, as later in this thread.
  4. Podman, to my surprise, bypasses ufw (uncomplicated firewall) just like Docker!
  • To restrict access to your computer only, you can PublishPort=127.0.0.1:2283:2283 as below.
  • To open to lan, PublishPort=2283:2283
  • If, like me, you're using a reverse-proxy, but don't want other LAN access, it's fairly easy to limit with iptables rules. I use nebula, which puts my vpn within a particular ip range. Script below.

iptables script

#!/bin/bash
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 2283 -j DROP
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 2283 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 2283 -s localhost -j ACCEPT

That puts each line at the top of iptables, before ufw or anything else. So they end up in reverse order from the script.

  • packets to port 2283 from localhost, accept!
  • packets to port 2283 from 192.168.1.*, accept!
  • packets to port 2283 from anywhere [else], drop!
[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sure, I set it up in nixos though this is the short form of that:

spoiler

  1. Install Podman and passt + slirp4netns for networking
  2. Setup subuid and subgid usermod --add-subuids 100000-165535 --add-subgids 100000-165535 johndoe
  3. I'm using quadlet's so we need to create those: $HOME/.config/containers/systemd/immich-database.container
[Unit]
Description=Immich Database
Requires=immich-redis.service immich-network.service

[Container]
AutoUpdate=registry
EnvironmentFile=${immich-config} # add your environment variables file here
Image=registry.hub.docker.com/tensorchord/pgvecto-rs:pg14-v0.2.0@sha256:90724186f0a3517cf6914295b5ab410db9ce23190a2d9d0b9dd6463e3fa298f0 # hash from the official docker-compose, has to be updated from time to time
Label=registry
Pull=newer # update to newest image, though this image is specified by hash and will never update to another version unless the hash is changed
Network=immich.network # attach to the podman network
UserNS=keep-id:uid=999,gid=999 # This makes uid 999 and gid 999 map to the user running the service, this is so that you can access the files in the volume without any special handling otherwise root would map to your uid and the uid 999 would map to some very high uid that you can't access without podman - This modifies the image at runtime and may make the systemd service timeout, maybe increase the timeout on low-powered machines 
Volume=/srv/services/immich/database:/var/lib/postgresql/data # Database persistance
Volume=/etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro # timezone info
Exec=postgres -c shared_preload_libraries=vectors.so -c 'search_path="$user", public, vectors' -c logging_collector=on -c max_wal_size=2GB -c shared_buffers=512MB -c wal_compression=on # also part of official docker-compose.....last time i checked anyways
[Service]
Restart=always

$HOME/.config/containers/systemd/immich-ml.container

[Unit]
Description=Immich Machine Learning
Requires=immich-redis.service immich-database.service immich-network.service

[Container]
AutoUpdate=registry
EnvironmentFile=${immich-config} #same config as above
Image=ghcr.io/immich-app/immich-machine-learning:release
Label=registry
Pull=newer # auto update on startup
Network=immich.network
Volume=/srv/services/immich/ml-cache:/cache # machine learning cache
Volume=/etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro

[Service]
Restart=always

$HOME/.config/containers/systemd/immich.network

[Unit]
Description=Immich network

[Network]
DNS=8.8.8.8
Label=app=immich

$HOME/.config/containers/systemd/immich-redis.container
[Unit]
Description=Immich Redis
Requires=immich-network.service

[Container]
AutoUpdate=registry
Image=registry.hub.docker.com/library/redis:6.2-alpine@sha256:eaba718fecd1196d88533de7ba49bf903ad33664a92debb24660a922ecd9cac8 # should probably change this  to valkey.... 
Label=registry
Pull=newer # auto update on startup
Network=immich.network
Timezone=Europe/Berlin

[Service]
Restart=always

$HOME/.config/containers/systemd/immich-server.container

[Unit]
Description=Immich Server
Requires=immich-redis.service immich-database.service immich-network.service immich-ml.service

[Container]
AutoUpdate=registry
EnvironmentFile=${immich-config} #same config as above
Image=ghcr.io/immich-app/immich-server:release
Label=registry
Pull=newer # auto update on startup
Network=immich.network
PublishPort=127.0.0.1:2283:2283
Volume=/srv/services/immich/upload:/usr/src/app/upload # i think you can put images here to import, though i never used it
Volume=/etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro # timezone info
Volume=/srv/services/immich/library:/imageLibrary # here the images are stored once imported

[Service]
Restart=always

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target default.target
  1. systemctl --user daemon-reload
  2. systemctl --user enable --now immich-server.service
  3. enable linger so systemd user services run even if the user is logged of loginctl enable-linger $USER
  4. Setup a reverse proxy like caddy so you can make access to it simple like immich.mini-pc.localnet
[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you!

Alas I can't get it to work. After some tweaking and fixing, I'm stuck that the server doesn't seem to be talking to redis, with this error,

missing 'error' handler on this Redis client
microservices worker error: Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND database, stack: Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND database    
     at GetAddrInfoReqWrap.onlookupall [as oncomplete] (node:dns:120:26)     
microservices worker exited with code 1    
Killing api process

I've been trying to learn bits of podman and docker and how to translate between the two... I think it's just a bit much for me for now! Thanks anyway, and I'm sure I'll come back and have another look at your instructions another time.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No Problem!

If you want to fix the issue: That seems like the hostname for one of the databases is wrongly set in the environment file, the hostname of containers is the same as the container name which can be read using podman ps.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

It worked! Thank you so much.

My quadlet files are now cobbled together from various sources, cross-referencing yours with the official docker compose and a couple of podman examples I found. But I now have a functioning Immich running in rootless podman, accessed through a VPS reverse proxy!

I'll edit my first comment in the chain with some tips in case someone else comes across this looking for help.

[–] Sproutling@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Docker to rootful podman is easy. Docker to rootless podman can get annoying due to the file permissions and slightly more limited networking

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah. I'm also waiting for a native Ubuntu package, I don't want to deal with Docker.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There’s some people who have managed to get it working under podman

[–] frozencow@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I'm running it under podman within NixOS using compose2nix on a rpi5.

I'd rather use the default NixOS option (services.immich.enable), but nixpkgs-unstable doesn't have all arm64 binaries prebuilt and building those can take a long time.