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“Telegram is not a private messenger. There’s nothing private about it. It’s the opposite. It’s a cloud messenger where every message you’ve ever sent or received is in plain text in a database that Telegram the organization controls and has access to it”

“It’s like a Russian oligarch starting an unencrypted version of WhatsApp, a pixel for pixel clone of WhatsApp. That should be kind of a difficult brand to operate. Somehow, they’ve done a really amazing job of convincing the whole world that this is an encrypted messaging app and that the founder is some kind of Russian dissident, even though he goes there once a month, the whole team lives in Russia, and their families are there.”

" What happened in France is they just chose not to respond to the subpoena. So that’s in violation of the law. And, he gets arrested in France, right? And everyone’s like, oh, France. But I think the key point is they have the data, like they can respond to the subpoenas where as Signal, for instance, doesn’t have access to the data and couldn’t respond to that same request.  To me it’s very obvious that Russia would’ve had a much less polite version of that conversation with Pavel Durov and the telegram team before this moment"

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[–] sleepy@lazysoci.al 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

SimpleX is the most private of the big three. No phone number or account needed. Able to self host.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why did they do it to themselves to name it after the herpes virus tho?

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because the most common transmission vector is via family members? (HSV 1)

E.g. Your crazy uncle or news max loving grandparents

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pardon my French but what the fuck is SimpleX?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A messenger app Musk touted as better than Signal some time ago

It's a turd of an App, it's not even close to ready for prime time.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

most importantly it has a severe network effect problem. you will not find anyone to message on it

[–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Why you say its Bad?

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Herpes. It’s sexually transmitted, and it’s lifelong. You don’t want it.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Geeez, who are the other two?

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What are the big three, and what is the bar it's jumping over to be consider big?