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[–] mushimas@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

Actually a good step in the right direction, but it's not the end.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

RISC-V already exists so why not build on that?

[–] SubstituteTurkey@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It said RISC-V is decades away

"There is no immediate solution. RISC-V, the open source processor architecture European sovereignty advocates point to as a long-term alternative, remains years from competitive performance in datacenter workloads. "It will take decades,""

[–] zarenki@lemmy.ml 8 points 14 hours ago

RISC-V is more like 1-3 years away from CPUs existing that have competitive performance in datacenter workloads. Not decades.

But they won't be manufactured in Europe. Getting fabs up and running is indeed something that takes a very long time.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

RISC-V isn't in the same scenario. There's one company behind ARM with a few external companies with architecture licenses (who doesn't share their contributions), and ARM competes mostly just on the same commercial terms so for a long time it wasn't worth investing in single core performance because they could instead fill the efficiency niche.

Also there's more knowledge on how to build high performance cores. Doesn't mean it's trivial, but it means the lead isn't several decades. With enough investment you can make it happen faster. And there's a national security motivation for investing.

[–] SubstituteTurkey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

That may be so (hopefully), I'm just a layman quoting an expert.