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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (22 children)

German here, albeit not a (tobacco) smoker. The only places where you can lawfully smoke nowadays are public spaces and specifically designated areas on private properties, which are also physically separated from the non smoking areas.

There are also some Kneipen (roughly equivalent to pubs) which allow smoking anywhere inside, catering to the smoking demographic; although those tend to be frequented by older people who are used to smoking while having a drink. Well there are also the alternative places which definitely have a younger clientele, some allow it anywhere some don't (and have a designated area outside as most other places do).

Ultimately though I believe we have a fair compromise going; and i am always taken aback by people being zealously anti tobacco anywhere, with no regard for individual liberties. Who then throw up their hands when I ask for a ban on personal cars.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You can still smoke in some bars?
In Austria they completely outlawed that with the argument, that the workers are forced to work in a smoke filled room

I'm probably one of those old guys, but I really enjoy a cigarette to my "Feierabendbier" and now I'm pretty much never going to a bar anymore, because at home I can have that combination...

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yup, though they have a "Raucherkneipe" sign outside (and they also tend to smell accordingly even when passing by).

It is true that the staff has to work in there as well but generally they just hire smokers as barkeeps for those places.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, ok, thanks!

Maybe it's just my personal preference, but I really like that solution, as it doesn't dictate how I need to live or manage my bar - if I would have one

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

If you want to make it a smoking one it will generally have to be small enough and not serve any food, at least no proper food (crisps and peanuts are fine).

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