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My web UI (Firefox, Android) always defaults to English, even though it also offers to let me change it on each and every comment individually.
I feel like people get tired of those of us who constantly say that PieFed offers SIGNIFICANTLY more features than Lemmy does, or will ever do, but OTOH...
Based on other comments it defaults to the last language used, right? (It has been some time since I used PieFed.)
People make a whole ruckus because of the political views of the individual devs (from both sides), and also because of Rust vs. Python, but at the end of the day I like how PieFed adds new things to the table. Every new piece of software brings a different vision, different "I can't stand this papercut issue so I'm fixing it", and with it a bunch of new features.
Although... for the Python vs. Rust thing, I get Rust might perform better but I kind of expect people to be more likely to contribute with a Python project.
Test two
Yes it defaults to the last one used.
You also set the list in your profile Settings menu, so it's not this humongous list of all possible languages but just those that you choose to show.
And "undetermined" is not one of the options that shows on outgoing messages.
You're talking about this list, right?
There's an equivalent one in Lemmy:
However both are for the content you see, not for the content you create. I just think having some way to "pin" a few convenient languages would be great. PieFed's "last used is the one you're expected to use" strategy works fine for 1 language, but for 2+ it still means digging through a huge list.
PieFed offers both a last-used facilitation and also a smaller list of only the options that you actually use on a daily basis (or at least what you had enabled at the time when you click to view the smaller list, regardless of what you've used in the past).
e.g. I now have a single language in the comment listing. In order to do my earlier test in Español I had to go into my Settings and enable that option in the large list, which changed the small list to have just those 2 choices: English and Español. When I began to make the comment in Español, the English option was of course the preselected one until I switched it to post the comment, so the real test was the follow-up second one, when I saw that not English and instead the last-used Español was preselected at that time.
Afterwards I removed Español (using the larger list in Settings) so that my smaller list has just the one language in it again. Which makes the entire per-comment UI element somewhat useless for me, sobre todo porque puedo hablar en cualquier idioma, pero aun así mantenerlo etiquetado como inglés. Vel alius. Ou un autre. Oder ein anderes.
Overall, I enjoy this approach - it seems ideal for someone who switches between a handful of languages, even though tbf that's not what I do myself.
Ah, got it! It's a sensible approach. Lemmy AFAIK doesn't do anything similar; it should.
I doubt it ever will, but yes.
Rust is stable but difficult to work in. The political propaganda not merely tolerated but actively pushed forward by its flagship instance, and things like the Lemmy instance picker "randomly" choosing either Lemmy.ml or hexbear.net literally (if roughly) 90% of the time, and the political rules never anywhere being stated explicitly on lemmy.ml, etc. have led people to greatly reduce or altogether stop funding for Lemmy.
At the same time the Lemmy devs are attacking PieFed, e.g. by running AI to identify vulnerabilities and then rather than offer even so much as 24 hrs notice go ahead and publicly disclose them (yes they "can" do so, but is it "friendly" to have chosen that route?). Also people report from looking at the Lemmy codebase that even though it is written in Rust it is still buggy, e.g. so much so that the underlying database must be constantly rebooting due to memory leakages. Tbf similar arguments if less substantiated claims have been made against PieFed as well. It is for this reason that in 2026 slrpnk.net will switch to PieFed, as quokk.au already did, even while others moved forward more hesitantly, opening up a PieFed alternative even while retaining their older Lemmy instance.
The fact that in Lemmy moderator reports have not federated all this time since the Rexodus (although FINALLY will in the upcoming v1.0 release), shows that the concerns of the more "global" audience for Lemmy are of far lesser consideration - and this is presuming the maximum good-faith assumptions of their programming capabilities.
I have lost virtually all faith that the Fediverse will ever grow much beyond its current state, but what faith I still have leftover I place solidly into the hands of PieFed as the best hope to move forward. We will see, I suppose.
I'm not informed on that. Do you have some link where I can read further about it?
Regarding the rest:
I feel like the problem regarding Lemmy features might be what you said about being difficult to work with, plus that there's way less people who can contribute with Rust code than Python code. However: I'm no programmer, this is just hearsay, so take it with a grain of salt because it might be incorrect.
That said I like the concurrent existence of Lemmy and PieFed, and I'd really like if there was more "Fediverse forum" platforms. It might split efforts a bit, but every new platform brings new stuff into the table; Lemmy was there at the start, then Kbin trying to "tie" the forums with microblogging, and then Piefed with the improvements you mentioned. More importantly, that concurrence allows us to not need to have "faith" in any specific platform, since if the devs for some reason go MIA the rest of the "Fediverse forums" survives.
Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed, and nodeBB all are part of the Threadiverse, multiple of which also interact with the wider Fediverse as well. flarum said that it wants to join as well, and work on Sublinks has reportedly resumed. It would be nice to see any and all of these become more mature platforms. Every one is incomplete to varying degrees, yet moving forward at whatever rate and yes that is good to see. I root for none of them to fail, yet if that is inevitable then I hope for at least one to succeed, at which point literally all benefit due to the ability to share content:-).
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/68952255
- sorry, I misremembered who did the disclosure, it was actually yogthos@lemmy.ml.
And on a related note, Rimu is stepping backwards a bit from directly contributing so much to PieFed, as it is leading to burnt-out: https://join.piefed.social/2026/05/12/what-worked-at-100-users-broke-at-5000/.
Thanks for the link! Relevant to note, one of the comments there linked this thread, where Nutomic (note for the onlookers: Nutomic is the Lemmy backend developer) criticises what Yogthos did. I'll quote it here:
And even then. I disagree with what Yogthos did, but what he said holds some merit (if a large model can find it, an attacker can do it too, so devs need to be proactive).
What I'm really disliking to see, though, in all this PieFed vs. Lemmy talk, is not even dev behaviour. From either side. It's user behaviour; the "popcorn crowd", throwing petrol into random fires, and burning the house down because it wants to see pretty flames go brrrrr. I've seen this in plenty other situations, but the threads both of us linked shows it really well.
And as typical for software, none will be ever complete! Or should be.
That might explain why some of his recent takes have been a bit… over-simplistic, to say the least. Odds are he isn't informed on the drama going on, and it's easy to jump to conclusions.
I appreciate what Nutomic said yes, it has appropriate nuance and complexity to match the situation - i.e. reporting bugs is both a good thing yet disclosure should have been made in a responsible manner so content of the message is good but the process was bad there.
Regarding adversity, I think many tankies love fighting and are quite aggressive (the phrase "spoiling for a fight" seems to often match), and Rimu is also quite aggressive in his own way though more in the "within the walls of my own house" kinda way. Rimu tried to help in the ongoing feud with Lemmy.world by providing context to the accusations that Luminous had called for the literal murder of MrKaplan (by showing a screenshot of Luminous' profile calling for the murder of all Zionists juxtaposed with a moderation event from Luminous that specifically labeled MrKaplan as a "zionist", at which point the truth of the latter no longer matters since the two of them combined equates to a call for MrKaplan's murder, from the admin of an instance no less! Although who voluntarily stepped down, at which point the defederation of anarchist.nexus was immediately un-done.), and ever since then the tankie crowd has been more up in arms against any instance that uses the PieFed software.
Which I find odd - software isn't the same as people, and software can be tuned to whatever purposes the admin in charge wants to set it too? I see a ton of campism going around lately, which obviously the tankies accuse Rimu of in reverse, since for some people maybe every accusation is a confession?
Witch hunting, as you said earlier. Irrationality, possibly fueled by emotional considerations. Tensions are high in the world right now, and what do Lemmings even talk about if not politics? :-P I would indeed hope that we could focus on making the software better, both Lemmy and PieFed, but the shit stirrers have other plans for their own emotional satisfaction. I used to defend the Lemmy devs, e.g. whenever I saw people asking for features I would point out the various reasons that Lemmy development was slow and that we need to all wait patiently. Now I defend PieFed development in like manner. FOSS is worthwhile, our common goal, and likewise we share a common platform too. Or at least we have so far, until the shit-stirrers defederate from all PieFed instances (which makes little sense to me - for one, quokk.au is both part of the Anarchist Flotilla as well as a PieFed instance, though maybe an exception will be made for it? and two, how do you defederate from "software"?) along with Lemmy.World for "zionist behaviors".
That Luminous vs. Kaplan case is a good example on how the popcorn crowd fuels fires. And, sure, some tankies are too combative*, but neither side here was one — it was mostly an anarchist and [I believe] a liberal.
From my PoV the whole thing went like this:
All of that while the folks in the flotilla consistently ignore why reddit.world censors pro-Palestinian messages (pressure from the German government), but not pro-Zionism ones (no such pressure exists). While reddit.world "conveniently" keeps doing this immoral shit because "we just follow orders". (And because banning the whole topic altogether wouldn't sit right in an instance that sees itself as the spiritual successor of Reddit, and other instances as those inconvenient stones in its path.)
Without the popcorn crowds, the most you'd have are two admin teams solving their issues in private. But because of the popcorn crowds the whole thing blew out of proportion.
Worst part? I'm not even sure if I'm not part of one of the crowds now.
* or should I say too "screechy"? If they actually spent that energy fighting for the causes, it would be great. But they're busier using it to screech at random people on the internet.
Very few people want to take the time to properly research things, and yes the popcorn crowd follows irrational behaviors, which (unfortunately?) makes decisions that result from that process incorrect. As in, even if the end goal had itself been correct, it having been arrived at via incorrect procedures makes it incorrect. So no, neither you nor I are part of that crowd, since our aim is truth.
The problem with the irrationality crowd is that it enjoys cloaking itself in truth as much as possible, right up until it does not anymore. e.g. even if both of us agreed with that crowd on every single matter (which we've both said that we do not, but hypothetically speaking), we still would not be "with" them since inevitably the search for truth will go one way while the campism+schadenfreude crowd will choose to go where we dare not follow. Or at least I have resolved in my mind that much, and I would suppose you as well but ofc cannot speak for anyone else (perhaps even my far-off future self? though I can certainly make educated guesses:-P).
One corollary to all of this might end up being that the Fediverse experiment has failed. I highly (99.99%) doubt that, but on the spectrum of total success being having reached a lofty goal of having at least as many if not more people on a federated platform as one of the mainstream platforms like X or even Reddit, vs. failure meaning that mere thousands of people remain here... I do think that the Anarchist Flotilla's pact is working more to cause failure than success. AN defederating from LW does not concern me one bit, and quite frankly the same is mostly still true in reverse, but taking the entirety of /0 with it, as the #7 most populated instance on the entire Threadiverse, will cause a major schism. Perhaps the Threadiverse experiment has already failed - certainly what happened to Lemm.ee, lemmynsfw.com (even if fedinsfw.app has bounced back, now with sth like 2x the subscriber count as the flagship instance PieFed.social?!), etc. has not helped.
People already avoid coming here since there is so little content, but second to that they avoid coming here due to toxicity e.g. leftist in-fighting / purity testing, and because this place is "confusing" to them to figure out. People being kicked off lemm.ee since it ceased to exist out from under them, then fled over to /0, and now finding ~50% of all Threadiverse users and perhaps 90% of the most popular communities taken away from them... this is going to send people back to Reddit.
We talk here as if this is the place to go to get away from Reddit. But in reality people are turning to smaller Reddit subs and touching grass irl, and Reddit is increasing their subscribers as people flee here to go there, or at maintaining stable numbers as people don't leave there to come here anymore.
So not total, utter failure as in 0% success, but perhaps single-digit success percentage as we have to now "manage expectations" moving forward with the reality as it is rather than it coming anywhere close to what we hoped we could achieve, together.
The Left always eats its own. And thus turns away centrists who thereby become neutral, which means that the Right wins by default... and thus the cycle continues turning. Same as it ever was. :-)
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