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Note: This setup is both for my android and pc Edit: For those recommending paid services and selfhosting, I don't have the money nor resources for either. Also it seams some people are confusing my android setup with my PC setup so I'll write it down. Android: Brave(movies) + Ironfox, Search: Brave + DDG, VPN: Proton ( not always on), GPay = Cash, Auth= Aegis Auth, Pass: KeepassDX, PC: Firefox= Librewolf, VPN = No VPN (VERY slow internet), Search: Searxng + DDG, Pass: KeepassXC,

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[–] galahyde@programming.dev 113 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] qweertz@programming.dev 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Still a proprietary black box you shouldn't trust and chromium based so you reinforce the chromium monopoly

[–] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why is vivaldi helping a chromium monopoly?

I understand it is based on chrome tech, and I guess that means it can use chrome extensions maybe? But how does it help chrome if people use it?

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It uses Google's browser ~~engine~~ base called Chromium, which Chrome is based on (the used engine is called "Blink"). A lot of websites are made to just function well on Chromium and maybe Safari

[–] taco@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A lot of websites are made to just function well on Chromium and maybe Safari

Isn't that more on the site creators? I have a handful of sites and web apps I don't have a choice to simply avoid because of job-related requirements. I've tried a bunch of other approaches, but keeping a Chromium browser installed has, so far, been the least painful way to get through my normal work days.

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

That's on corporate sites just saving work or intentionally obstructing and restricting Firefox because Google basically a monopoly.

For me personally Firefox (and it's engine Gecko) work fine for 99% of websites I visit.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

With the market share of Chrome and Chrome-derived browsers Google basically single-handedly decides how the web works. They decide to implement some functionality, everybody needs to do the same, every other browser "vendor" has to implement it as well now. The consortium deciding about it theoretically is a fig leaf at that point.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Agreed, but occasionally I have to use a site that doesn't work properly on Firefox-based browsers. I mostly use Cromite to deal with that, but want a backup in case Cromite dies like its predecessor Bromite did.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Firefox is my daily drive and I use Ungoogled Chromium for the rare times Firefox doesn't work

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

If Firefox doesn't work I just click away

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

Ty - I'll give UC a try.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I agree. Firefox is "almost everything" for me. The example that comes to mind for it not working is WebSerial. That's when the UC comes out. Also there was a brief period where the Papa John's website checkout didn't work in Firefox.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

have you tried to fake user-agent with Firefox? Most shitty sites I encountered which pull that off just do it for no reason whatsoever. They work perfectly fine in Firefox disguised as Chrome.

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Oh, yeah - forgot about that extension. Will have to try that next time - thx!

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Just use Firefox with uBlock Origin and PrivacyBadger.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Firefox needs to add tab groups on mobile first

[–] bradons@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Can you tell me why? I found out ddg was just repackage bing results so I've been trying brave for now.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Here's a good summary of some of the shady practices that they've done by way of @cannedtuna@lemmy.world. It's a summary of this article: https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/

  • Brendan Eich's anti-LGBTQ+ political involvement

    • Brendan Eich donated to anti-LGBT political organizations, politicians, and initiatives such as CA Prop 8 which banned same-sex marriages.
  • 2016 — Brave Browser promises to replace webpage ads

    • Brave promised to replace ads with privacy friendly ads that would actually pay publishers and even users with a volatile cryptocurrency while keeping a cut for themselves. This never actually came to life and was criticized as "blatantly illegal".
  • 2018 — Brave runs a questionable donation campaign

    • Brave collected donations for popular content creators without actually involving or seeking consent from said creators. In short they accepted donations in crypto for creators, but would only pay out if it reached a minimum value of $100. When called out, Brave said refunds were impossible.
  • 2020 — Brave injects referral links when visiting crypto wallets

    • Brave injected their own referral links for services such as Binance without informing users or asking permission.
  • 2020 — Brave puts ads in user's home screens

    • Brave turned their home screen image rotator into a place to serve ads, many of which were suspicious or crypto related.
  • 2021 - Brave ships an insecure Tor feature

    • Brave added a Tor feature which exposed users DNS requests
  • 2023 - Brave hides their crawlers to websites

    • Brave refuses to disclose their crawler bot to websites since many websites want to block Brave Search. Brave will only chose not to crawl a website if it also blocks Google's crawler.
  • 2024 - So-called "privacy browser" deprecated advanced fingerprinting protection

    • Brave removed a the Strict, Block Fingerprinting privacy feature from their browser.
  • And More!

    • Brave paid for targeted ads for users searching for Firefox in the Play Store and ran a campaign to "Forget the Fox". When called out on this the VP publicly denied it and claimed it was photo-shopped.
    • The VP of Brave, Luke Mulks, frequently posts about all things crypto, from NFTs to FTX, and uses AI-gen images to promote them. He also frequently re-tweets right-wing activists.
    • Brendan Eich's feed also frequently contains right-wing content and Republican propaganda despite his claims to be "independent".
[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

2026 - "pay $60 to REMOVE our bloat features"

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Oh? I haven't used their browser since ~2018, good to know that I continue to have made the right decision. I now use librewolf on my desktop and IronFox on my phone

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I jumped onboard in the beginning (2016?) when they would show you "tailored" ads in exchange for their crypto. I made about $30 or so before I got bored of the endless crypto scam ads, despite having that category disabled.

Then came the referral link scandal, and I went back to FF until I found Librewolf.

[–] FlordaMan@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It includes a lot of crypto bullshit, and I believe the founder is a right wing weirdo, but don’t quote me on that.

To also point out the good stuff: their browser has some pretty good anti-fingerprinting and privacy measures build in.

2026 - "pay $60 to REMOVE our bloat features"