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So I think we're aligned... or at least I'm coming to your side in my Liberal >> Left journey.
A commenter above said you left off the /s and that it was sometimes hard to tell. I went in defending Left from someone who thought that Hillary would have been significantly different from/better than Obama.
I'm assuming with "I think it would have been a push," that you were not actually blaming Left (those here, not colloquial US democratic voters in aggregate) for the current problems, but maybe I'm still missing something.
I wrote up further discussion, but it took me too long to collect my thoughts and I think I missed my chance to have a reasonable window.
I did want to still follow up and say thanks for having this conversation with me, and for going into detail.