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Nah you weren't rude, I'm not being clear enough, I'm talking about the way these people act on here whenever it gets brought up, I mean Axolotl just responded to USU when it was posted the other day by making fun of them, didn't even address any of the points in the article. You literally get mass shunned around here because there really is no left to converse with other than a smattering of blogs and these nonprofit organizations (unless you like Twitch and Youtuber fandom cults) that just end up funneling people into the democratic party. (Cornell West IS A DEMOCRAT, the No Kings rally is a DEMOCRAT EVENT, what are we talking about lol?)
I wouldn't say I'm actually like, angry with people, but it is a bit surprising that they say shit like "even if this is all true they're still the best we got :)" and "still voting for whoever they run!!"
Completely submental & repulsively dismissive of any motivations people have for talking about this stuff other than "ur jealous of our sweet party" like no you're (I mean they're sorry, see this is the problem) going to be killed you are using liberal protest strategies mapped out by CIA archdemon Gene Sharpe, handpicked by Henry Kissinger, who was still speaking at PSL/ANSWER events in 2012.
Is it cherrypicking or is the apex of their organizing strategy being to bring together clueless MLs with liberals and even libertarians, or run a candidate who never wins kinda concerning?
The overall goal of the western left is to lubricate their accession to the asset market. That's not stable. Look at the world lmao
It takes a while for people to go through transactions and identify a money laundering network. They didn't have spreadsheet software! So, now we can go back & look at all the from groups the WWP created & trace them to the present day. Lot of it comes from the HUAC lashing out at exposing their own informants lol, shades of MAGA
I'm surprised you would be taken aback by that in particular. I recommend doing some deeper reading on the cold war
My advice to everyone outside America is disregard these people. They are only there to distract you
EDIT: this one is still too cranky. Okay new rule I don't spike anyone's blood pressure. Challenging. Builder mindset™
Not too big on the PSL myself, I'm nonetheless curious. Does this mean you're saying they're a plant organisation that exists to funnel revolutionary momentum back into supporting the status quo? I wouldn't put it past the states, I'd nonetheless ask for any sources on this statement.
Of course, sorry, I am making this the next action I take on Lemmy. I have put it off because the burden of proof suddenly jumps up to "epistemological" & everyone gets really mad at me for days every time I bring it up. But, I just thought about it, this is technically posting about the war, so that frees up my compulsion to do that. I get really sad if I don't post about Palestine on like a dozen websites every single day. There is no point in doing that just to make myself feel better if nobody understands what's going on or what to do about it, and this is arguably the most crucial part for Westoids.
It's not just one organization. It's not that many organizations and key individuals, plus sometimes a wall randomly crumbles next to you & an item like https://serenashimaward.org/laureates/ this rolls out lol. But it is enough organizations & people to be really hard 🤣 their whole thing is creating new front groups where the new membership is clueless but once they find out about the connections they're presented as normal & pragmatic.
Every front group can be tuned to a different audience. I am going to finish updating some old writing. I said I would do it last year but I got really mad
The only thing I know of that is comparable to what is happening in Palestine is what happened in the US to the people who were here first. PSL makes a point of acknowledging that. FREE (forum for real economic emancipation) also seems awesome. Building chapters based on their could be a key to building dual power which is nessicary for a successful revolution. All the groups even sketchy ones like DSA and cpusa need to come together. Something like free could allow that.
The problem is that you're talking about a coalition of people who all intend to help Palestine through the liberal nonviolent protest disorganizing strategy I mentioned. The Gene Sharpe thing.
Exciting sneak preview of the chauvinism my forthcoming post will elicit. I'm having second thoughts. These people need to be [REDACTED POSITIVE THING VERY POSITIVE]
They don't research these orgs well before forming an emotional attachment to them based on their preconceoved notions of the "success" of liberal strategies. This is still going strong on the threadiverse. People around here on Lemmygrad are doing an exact rerun of the "China supports Israel" psyop with Vietnam, a (lovely) country that does not respect sanctions on Iran...
I wonder if anyone useful will show up before this site dies?
I'm confused. How is not supporting sanctions on Iran in support of Israel? Who is saying China supports Israel? I would like to see China cut Israel off completely, but I also understand that the cost of that might be too much for China. China has condemned Israel at the UN.
They don't know Vietnam ignores those sanctions. I am the only person who has pointed it on this site, & only about three people saw it. Yeah, we are all on the same page about the China thing. They're not capable of taking those lessons & applying them to Vietnam.
To be clear, Vietnam & China's relationship with Israel is completely open to criticism. I think that should start with a deeper look into what their actual foreign policy is based on, then step from there to examining whether that lines up with reality. By my reckoning it does, but I am not omniscient, just persistent.