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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

LWer: slavery was bad and abolishing the slave trade was a net good

LW commenters: really?

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yDZcsojmRXo5qKNBm/surprising-facts-about-the-slave-trade

(I can kind of understand that intellectual honesty can prompt people to question a narrative, and in some ways I respect it, but there comes a time when you need to ask yourself "am I being the best person I can be by defending slavery" and back away from the keyboard)

[–] maol@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

these kinds of questions are about the potential benefits to some hypothetical version of humanity (from slavery) vs. the real, documented harms to a real group of real people (caused by slavery). Of course we already know that rationalists are bad at accounting for the later while distracted by the bright and shiny allure of the former. And it just so happens that the people they imagine benefiting from slavery are people very much like themselves.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

At times you need to ask yourself, does the devil need more advocates? And how much does he even pay?

Did a quick search but is that post really talking about the abolition of slavery and not mentioning Haiti once?

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

it focuses entirely on britain, so that's understandable

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Don't think it is, as the revolt predates British decisions by a while, and 'there is now potentially a country which will materially support slave revolts' changes the economic risks a bit.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Slave revolts were basically constant, and I think it would have been easy for contemporary British to blame the success of the Haitian revolt on the uselessness of the French, not that slavery was doomed because the slaves now had a "win".

Brazil had horrific slave revolts and didn't abolish slavery until the late 1880s.

Yeah. The Haitian revolution was absolutely a high point of postcolonial Caribbean history, but the resulting state wasn't exactly able to project power and export their revolution through material support. It gave slavers a reason to double down on repression, but outside of Haiti itself it's a propaganda win more than a change in the scales.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

At times you need to ask yourself, does the devil need more advocates? And how much does he even pay?

Top-rated review

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Hmmm can we trust a narrative extensively documented in the UK Parliament, courts, and newspapers? Hmmm can we?

No I will not look anything up personally.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

Point 1 is very funny, like, what's the difference? Randoids are children.