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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not all boomers. Sorry, blaming "boomers" is rather naive.

I've been around long enough to remember boomers blaming all the things on Silent/Greatest Generation. They had all the answers and could not wait to take over.

Just sayin' - I'm starting to see a pattern here.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem with boomers, though, is that they formed such a large voting block that their generation has been able to steer the political system in the US. We started seeing change in the 90s and it was gaining momentum in the early 00s, but the reactionaries went full tilt on fascism as a result.

This is a gross oversimllified take so please don't think it's meant as any kind of scholarly dissertation.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gen Y is the largest generation right now.

All of voting age. Followed by Gen Z (not all of voting age - yet), then Gen X, then boomers.

I mean, what happened in the past as you describe as a result of the huge numbers of boomers is entirely possible. I'm Gen X, so believe it when I say I have my share of resentments about how we were overshadowed nearly our entire lives by boomers, and then the spotlight jumped right to Gen Y, but all because of numbers, and not any unique traits to either Gen Y or boomers or to Gen X.

But at this point, blaming boomers for what is happening now is rather....interesting, I have to say. They are the 4th largest group.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Also Gen X and I don't blame them for the current state of things other than them being responsible for the groundwork that led to where we are and blocking progress as long as they did.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They have most of the wealth and the power. They're the ones doing the fascism. Every generation is doing their part on that fucked up front but the buck (literally) starts and stops with the boomers for the most part.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

White people have the most wealth and power.

City people have the most wealth and power.

Men have the most wealth and power.

Non-Indigenous people have the most wealth and power.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

So is it fucking white people, fucking city people, fucking white men, and fucking settlers?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gen Y numbers are bigger right now, as a voting bloc.

Also, Gen Y is poised to be the richest generation on record: https://fortune.com/2025/03/28/millennials-richest-generation-on-record-great-wealth-transfer-from-baby-boomers/

I suspect all that wealth transfer may change....something...but I'm not in any way convinced that Gen Y is any better than the boomers, as a group. In fact, they have no real equivalent activism of the 60s generation from what I can tell. In fact, I'm almost certain Gen Y doesn't have some magical quality that the boomers don't and that they'll make things better just by dint of being a different generation with all the wealth and all the numbers....I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You read fortune? I can go ahead and ignore you now, thanks for that out. Fucking boomers.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I don't read Fortune.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What kind of loser spends their free time going around defending boomers?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the same vein, you're all over this thread exclusively shitting on boomers and ignoring all other possibilities.

Looks like Astro turfing to me.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

How is it astroturfing when boomers hold most of the power in most of the world governments and most of the wealth to boot? Also only tankies care to astroturf on lemmy, there aren't enough people here to give a shit but propagandists gonna propagandize.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I'm all over this thread telling people to vote for anti-billionaire, pro-worker, anti-genocidal candidates in the primaries because there are too many pro-billionaire, anti-worker, pro-genocidal politicians in office. You don't think it's Boomers voting for those people in the primaries? Who do you think is electing those people?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now you're calling us losers?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You haven't answered a single one of my questions in any of my comments you've responded to.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What kind of loser spends their free time going around defending boomers?

A sad pathetic loser. Baby Boomers are scum—every single one of them.

Does that make you happy, kiddo?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Demonstrates you have some awareness of the problem.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol okay. What was the problem before my ageism then? And what year did my ageism become the problem?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

to your 1st question: There was/is a number of problems.

to your 2nd question: I don't know: I don't know you, pseudonymous.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

to your 1st question: There was/is a number of problems.

Interesting. Not what you said a second ago. Such as?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  1. America's bloated military budget and imperialism.

  2. US veneration of veterans—those war criminals who fought after Korea, if not after WWII.

  3. increase protections "intellectual property" means increased violations of free speech, property, and things such as progress.

  4. people still using Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon, even though it makes their owners richer.

  5. cat and dog owners who feed their pets factory farmed meat, and people who buy eggs from those who have hens in battery cages.

  6. vehicles that are excessively loud be they pick-up trucks, sports cars, and motorcycles.

  7. people spending $100 000s on a house, but not a fraction of that to make it over half energy self-sufficient with things such as solar cells and battery arrays.

  8. NIMBY laws that causes much of the homelessness.

  9. Americans who dump on 3rd party candidates because they think they can change the 2-party state from within the 2 parties.

  10. Local cable monopolies—a cable isn't a highway or railroad—you can bunch up cables of competitors together.

  11. Canadian retaliatory tariffs on the US. Let the free market—something that Trump and many in American business who aren't acquainted with—do the retaliating.

among other things.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  2. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  3. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  4. Lack of policy voted in by Boomers.
  5. Lack of policy voted in by Boomers.
  6. Lack of policy voted in by Boomers.
  7. Lack of policy voted in by Boomers.
  8. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  9. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  10. Policy voted in by Boomers.
  11. Dunno what you're saying here but probably: Policy voted in by Boomers.

Any questions?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The oldest boomer turned 21 in 1967, and 18 year-olds could essentially only vote for President in 1972 and after (18 year-olds in 1972 were generally born in 1954).

The youngest boomer turned 18 in 1982.

None of them voted for Roosevelt, Kennedy, or LBJ;

and the youngest boomers couldn't vote for Nixon, Ford, Carter, or Reagan's first term.

Clinton was the first boomer President, and for about 8 years, there were no new wars, save the bombing of Belgrade in 1999 after they were ethnically cleaning Kosovars and Europe was doing little about it.

A majority of boomers voted for Dubya, but the same applies to Gen Xers, and perhaps some early millennials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

  1. pre-dates boomers, and many boomers opposed/oppose.

  2. most Americans revere their vets.

  3. many people supported it. Many late gen Xers and Millennials were P2P fans, but many seem to have given it up for iTunes, iPods, and iPhones—because Steve Jobs is such a frickin' genius and innovator.

  4. Policy not needed: if all post-boomers ceased such, these companies would take big hits, and alternatives would have far better success, but if anything, post-boomers seem even more addicted to such than boomers. Post boomers can't help it. Free will doesn't exist, or so I'm told by younger folks. When was the last time you didn't use your smart phone for 24 hours, if ever?

  5. Policy not needed: don't feed one's cats and dogs with such meat, or give up on cats and dogs.

  6. IMO, most of these annoying vehicles are driven by post-boomers.

  7. Policy not needed: the typical post-boomer probably hasn't read the Wikipedia article on PVCs or batteries. Maybe some AI will tell them on their phone and they might remember it—maybe.

  8. Such policies existed before boomers could vote.

  9. Have you read what I stated? Many post-boomers do most of the dumping. I get downvoted here for promoting 3rd parties and attacking the 2-party state. But yes, go support Millennial Graham Platner because an old boomer like Susan Cole mustn't win—and support Bernie and AOC, until they are sidelined and then vote for the centrist nominee. Don't even think of voting 3rd party as most post-boomers seem to oppose it.

Don't vote for Jill Stein as it could sap votes from Harris. Don't vote for gay Millennial Chase Oliver because Trump is essentially libertarian.

The Graham Platner Left Is Rewriting History

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtyyQi198k

24:17

BadEmpanada Live

  1. I don't think boomers were the largest voting block in the mid-1970s.

  2. Mark Carney—he's the PM of Canada—is Gen X.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Seems like you have two main rebuttles.

  1. Happened before the Boomers. Fine, "Boomers protected existing policy."
  2. "Policy not needed" either it's a problem or it isn't. If it's a problem then policy would improve it. If it's not a problem then don't list it.

Also

most Americans revere their vets.

Regardless, you listed a problem which could be improved by policy which never happened because Boomers didn't make it a priority.

I don't give two shits about Platner or whatever smear campaign corporate centerists are trying to run to stop the DSA from gaining ground.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

.1. Happened before the Boomers. Fine, “Boomers protected existing policy.”

You moved the goalposts:

"Policy voted in by Boomers." → “Boomers protected existing policy.”

and even then you kind of fail:

I'd say boomers did little about it, aside from voting for politicians (pre-boomers (e.g Mitch), boomers (e.g. Richard Blumenthal), and post-boomers (e.g. Gen-Xers like MTG, or Millennials like Matt Gaetz)).

While proportionately more boomers might vote for the bad guys—by a few percentage points—than post-boomers, it's not much of a difference, and Gen Xers and Millennials might get more conservative as they get older. Look at Alex Karp, a Gen Xer: IIUC he went from describing himself as a Marxist and supporting Biden, to being in league with Trump.

.2. “Policy not needed” either it’s a problem or it isn’t. If it’s a problem then policy would improve it. If it’s not a problem then don’t list it.

I don't see how policy would improve such things.

.4. What policy would you think of that would stop people from using Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon? or give alternatives a chance?

Bluesky seems to be a big alternative to Twitter; but perhaps it's cool in a way Twitter was cool 15 years ago. How are we sure it won't become as bad as Twitter in, say, 2041, when members of Gen Alpha might become members of Congress?

.5. What policy would you have to prevent cat and dog owners feeding their pets factory farmed meat?

What about those poor Gen Zs who can afford the expensive free range meat? Should their pet food be subsidized? This might tick-off the animal rights crowd—the ones who protest veganism while not keeping darling cute little furry pet carnivores.

.7. What policy would you have for independent solar? That every house sold must have, say, an array of PVCs that can produce up to 4 kilowatts of power and an array of batteries—wp:Nickel–iron batteries as they are less harmful to the environment than lithium or even lead-acid?

Regardless, you listed a problem which could be improved by policy which never happened because Boomers didn’t make it a priority.

and I don't see post-boomers easily or quickly changing things either.

I don’t give two shits about Platner or whatever smear campaign corporate centrists are trying to run to stop the DSA from gaining ground.

So it's okay for a candidate to rape if he's a progressive. Ditto the totenkopf. Ditto that he participated in mass-murder of Iraqis and Afghanis.

Some of it makes me think of "wp:It's the economy, stupid" for Bill Clinton.

Also,

wp:Clinton–Lewinsky scandal#Legacy and retrospective assessment

Legacy and retrospective assessment

The Clinton–Lewinsky scandal was subject to widespread media coverage, resulting in considerable difficulties for Monica Lewinsky later in life as she attempted to find employment. In 2014, she publicly re-emerged as an activist against cyberbullying and public shaming after writing the essay Shame and Survival for Vanity Fair.[68] Subsequently, several prominent media figures who had covered or mocked Lewinsky during the scandal expressed regret at their role in it. David Letterman remarked "I feel bad about my role in helping push the humiliation to the point of suffocation".[69]

IMO, non-American boomer women are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

Indeed, non-American boomer women from OECD, EU, and/or EFTA member states are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

https://youtu.be/vbkxVa_3lGc?t=386 (cued, maybe watch for 100 seconds)

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

🙄

Engaging in ageism and inter-generational nonsense is just falling for the red herring.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boomers that aren't part of the problem aren't offended by generalizations. Look in the mirror. You wanna defend landlords next?

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They might be annoyed more than offended.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Oh no I'm annoyed my generation is largely responsible for the destruction of the world."

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

One of Bill Maher's better videos—he even praises Greta Thunberg:

New Rule: OK, Zoomer | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYSLyvbR_1w

7:20

https://youtu.be/RYSLyvbR_1w?t=395 (cued)

"I wish, your generation was better than mine: I really do, but the sad truth is, we're completely the same: lots of talk, and at the end of the day, hopelessy, seduced and addicted, to pigging out on convenience, luxury, and consumption."

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't say all boomers. I very specifically said which ones i meant.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I very specifically said which ones i meant.

Where?

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I suggest you try phone banking for an anti-billionaire candidate in a primary election. Your take on Boomers will become informed real fast.