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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The oldest boomer turned 21 in 1967, and 18 year-olds could essentially only vote for President in 1972 and after (18 year-olds in 1972 were generally born in 1954).

The youngest boomer turned 18 in 1982.

None of them voted for Roosevelt, Kennedy, or LBJ;

and the youngest boomers couldn't vote for Nixon, Ford, Carter, or Reagan's first term.

Clinton was the first boomer President, and for about 8 years, there were no new wars, save the bombing of Belgrade in 1999 after they were ethnically cleaning Kosovars and Europe was doing little about it.

A majority of boomers voted for Dubya, but the same applies to Gen Xers, and perhaps some early millennials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

  1. pre-dates boomers, and many boomers opposed/oppose.

  2. most Americans revere their vets.

  3. many people supported it. Many late gen Xers and Millennials were P2P fans, but many seem to have given it up for iTunes, iPods, and iPhones—because Steve Jobs is such a frickin' genius and innovator.

  4. Policy not needed: if all post-boomers ceased such, these companies would take big hits, and alternatives would have far better success, but if anything, post-boomers seem even more addicted to such than boomers. Post boomers can't help it. Free will doesn't exist, or so I'm told by younger folks. When was the last time you didn't use your smart phone for 24 hours, if ever?

  5. Policy not needed: don't feed one's cats and dogs with such meat, or give up on cats and dogs.

  6. IMO, most of these annoying vehicles are driven by post-boomers.

  7. Policy not needed: the typical post-boomer probably hasn't read the Wikipedia article on PVCs or batteries. Maybe some AI will tell them on their phone and they might remember it—maybe.

  8. Such policies existed before boomers could vote.

  9. Have you read what I stated? Many post-boomers do most of the dumping. I get downvoted here for promoting 3rd parties and attacking the 2-party state. But yes, go support Millennial Graham Platner because an old boomer like Susan Cole mustn't win—and support Bernie and AOC, until they are sidelined and then vote for the centrist nominee. Don't even think of voting 3rd party as most post-boomers seem to oppose it.

Don't vote for Jill Stein as it could sap votes from Harris. Don't vote for gay Millennial Chase Oliver because Trump is essentially libertarian.

The Graham Platner Left Is Rewriting History

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtyyQi198k

24:17

BadEmpanada Live

  1. I don't think boomers were the largest voting block in the mid-1970s.

  2. Mark Carney—he's the PM of Canada—is Gen X.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems like you have two main rebuttles.

  1. Happened before the Boomers. Fine, "Boomers protected existing policy."
  2. "Policy not needed" either it's a problem or it isn't. If it's a problem then policy would improve it. If it's not a problem then don't list it.

Also

most Americans revere their vets.

Regardless, you listed a problem which could be improved by policy which never happened because Boomers didn't make it a priority.

I don't give two shits about Platner or whatever smear campaign corporate centerists are trying to run to stop the DSA from gaining ground.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

.1. Happened before the Boomers. Fine, “Boomers protected existing policy.”

You moved the goalposts:

"Policy voted in by Boomers." → “Boomers protected existing policy.”

and even then you kind of fail:

I'd say boomers did little about it, aside from voting for politicians (pre-boomers (e.g Mitch), boomers (e.g. Richard Blumenthal), and post-boomers (e.g. Gen-Xers like MTG, or Millennials like Matt Gaetz)).

While proportionately more boomers might vote for the bad guys—by a few percentage points—than post-boomers, it's not much of a difference, and Gen Xers and Millennials might get more conservative as they get older. Look at Alex Karp, a Gen Xer: IIUC he went from describing himself as a Marxist and supporting Biden, to being in league with Trump.

.2. “Policy not needed” either it’s a problem or it isn’t. If it’s a problem then policy would improve it. If it’s not a problem then don’t list it.

I don't see how policy would improve such things.

.4. What policy would you think of that would stop people from using Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon? or give alternatives a chance?

Bluesky seems to be a big alternative to Twitter; but perhaps it's cool in a way Twitter was cool 15 years ago. How are we sure it won't become as bad as Twitter in, say, 2041, when members of Gen Alpha might become members of Congress?

.5. What policy would you have to prevent cat and dog owners feeding their pets factory farmed meat?

What about those poor Gen Zs who can afford the expensive free range meat? Should their pet food be subsidized? This might tick-off the animal rights crowd—the ones who protest veganism while not keeping darling cute little furry pet carnivores.

.7. What policy would you have for independent solar? That every house sold must have, say, an array of PVCs that can produce up to 4 kilowatts of power and an array of batteries—wp:Nickel–iron batteries as they are less harmful to the environment than lithium or even lead-acid?

Regardless, you listed a problem which could be improved by policy which never happened because Boomers didn’t make it a priority.

and I don't see post-boomers easily or quickly changing things either.

I don’t give two shits about Platner or whatever smear campaign corporate centrists are trying to run to stop the DSA from gaining ground.

So it's okay for a candidate to rape if he's a progressive. Ditto the totenkopf. Ditto that he participated in mass-murder of Iraqis and Afghanis.

Some of it makes me think of "wp:It's the economy, stupid" for Bill Clinton.

Also,

wp:Clinton–Lewinsky scandal#Legacy and retrospective assessment

Legacy and retrospective assessment

The Clinton–Lewinsky scandal was subject to widespread media coverage, resulting in considerable difficulties for Monica Lewinsky later in life as she attempted to find employment. In 2014, she publicly re-emerged as an activist against cyberbullying and public shaming after writing the essay Shame and Survival for Vanity Fair.[68] Subsequently, several prominent media figures who had covered or mocked Lewinsky during the scandal expressed regret at their role in it. David Letterman remarked "I feel bad about my role in helping push the humiliation to the point of suffocation".[69]

IMO, non-American boomer women are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

Indeed, non-American boomer women from OECD, EU, and/or EFTA member states are probably more progressive and/or less toxic than post-boomer American men.

https://youtu.be/vbkxVa_3lGc?t=386 (cued, maybe watch for 100 seconds)