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The reason Lemmy hates AI with a passion is because of the uncanny valley experienced by its older audience, not because of AI having no potential at all. (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

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Let me preface that I hate AI on what it could do to arts, especially I hate its bland writing style. A third of the music on Spotify is AI and majority can't tell if it's AI. But LLM/AI or however one calls it, only in Lemmy do I see seething hate and refuse to acknowledge its potential. Most people I spoke to outside of the platform also dislike AI but see its potential and agree that the current models are overrated. Many agree it will probably take years or decades to see bigger improvement.

Lemmy, on the other hand, as much as I love the community, is an echo chamber of pure dismissal and rage on AI believing it will amount to nothing. It's only in Lemmy I see this behaviour. One person even said bacteria has more consciousness than AI, which is ridiculous because bacteria clearly don't have the same level of consciousness and context as AI, however the latter has little of. I see many dismissive scoff and straw man arguments that it will never improve; but the same was told of automobiles, planes and renewable energy. Their initial models were terribly bad because of the limitations of the time but now huge strides of improvements are made despite taking years. The AI also clearly has limits but don't see any reason why the same hurdles won't be surmounted in years to come.

Again, I hate AI on what negative impact it could do to human society, especially because many of the models are owned by select few. But it's burying in the head not to see its potential. Because if there isn't any, techbros or not, governments across the world would not be racing to adopt them. AI had been effectively used in the war in Ukraine. And governments would not want race to implement AI surveillance. So, if there is no potential, why are the big wigs wasting time and energy on AI at all?

I'm convinced that many Lemmy is experiencing the uncanny valley on AI and doesn't realise it. Plus, and I'm going to be blunt, a huge portion of Lemmy are of older demographics so there is probably a disdain on novelty that many Lemmy folks are not self-aware of.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I actually quite like the idea of AI. I'm not against using deepseek to talk out ideas, though I have a sizable start prompt to turn off all the middle manager is spews.

When stable diffusion was relatively new I ever used it to publish a coloring book on amazon publishing with the hopes of creating a series called Bad AI Coloring books where I curated the images and did touchups in Inkscape with the goal of really getting a good laugh out of the surreal, absurd, and frequently straight up dumb things that come out of it. I never got past the nature edition because I saw the way the winds were going and my machine was already punching outside its league.

My dislike it because of capitalism. I'm yet again watching a thneed being sold to idiots at the cost of my raising electric bill and to the detriment of my experience on the internet. I have to put more effort into curating my search results. I can no longer expect the first few sites to answer my question. At work I have to wait longer to do my job because my work computer lags as copilot tries to run and the IT department won't remove it from startup. When I go to consume the horror stories, my feed is filled with dead voices that do not understand the importance of emphasis and timing. I can't enjoy a salesman pitch of a story delivered by a voice that replaces a scream of terror with a list of A's and H's.

I'm all the more upset that this is something that has use and is being misused. For a short while I was using one to give personality to a voice assistant I ran in my home server. On specific voice commands it would give a specific prompt to an AI that was set up with a tediously defined personality. It added some variety to the responses. My favorite was that I could ask it to tell me a joke and it would tell me a random joke from a list of 100 that I added but if you asked it more than 3 times in a row it would respond with a personal message depending on who asks. My kid would get asked if he's done with all his chores, my spouse would get a polite excuse, and anyone else would get a sardonic roast about how comedy isn't a replacement for therapy. I may put it back on my server if I can ever upgrade the hardware to run both that and jellyfin.

Putting it in games, using it for animatromic entertainment, that would be great. Artists training them on their own work and using them to rough draft 40 images then they pick one to finish, now all that furry porn and one off d&d portraits take a quarter of the time.

I wouldn't use the current iterations for them, we can't clean all the grooming, csam, bigotry, lies, stolen media, etc out of it, but I do genuinely believe you could train it on a curated amount of information and get something that genuinely does what it needs to.

All in all, I feel the same about AI as I feel about guns. It's stupid that we allow them to be used this way, it's stupid that we don't do more about enforcing where it is and isn't ok, it's stupid that we live in a society that won't address the root causes of these problems. I own two guns and I don't think it's necessary for me to get rid of them because I use them properly. If I knew how to make my own AI I wouldn't be against it because I'm not going to destroy society with it. The problem is when they're used to replace humans or shoot up schools.