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I mean I guess Nancy Pelosi spelling it out "we're capitalists and that's that" wasn't enough to make it clear they're on the side of business and money, and not on the side of regular people or something.

EDIT: Sorry, realized after posting this sounds kind of snotty. I just mean that unfortunately liberals often focus on growing capitalism, which is inherently a system that rewards ruthlessness and selfishness in business.

I think markets are important, but markets can still exist without capitalism, and it's clear capitalism's way of approaching economics poisons our governance through regulatory capture. Capitalism lets every business owner be a dictator of his personal fiefdom, it does not allow democracy for workers in the workplace. So capitalism and democracy are nearly inherently unable to permanently co-exist, and liberals support of capitalism over even tightly regulated capitalism (which also doesn't work because the people with capital will always use that capital to influence regulation to benefit them selfishly), they are still basically all-in on laissez-faire capitalism where regulation is scant and allows for the corruption of both business and government. Their unwillingness to face these facts makes them squarely center-right, where they give platitudes for social justice like kneeling kente cloths (which did fucking nothing at all, just symbolic bullshit) but also make conditions for social justice worse by allowing a two tiered justice system to flourish.

Nah it's not just you, we get confused USians in here all the time 😄. Liberal parties are right of center in most countries i think. They certainly are here in Germany, in Australia the major conservative party is called the "liberal party of australia" just to name two examples.

The confusion I think comes from the fact that the US only has two parties that kept drifting further and further right ever since WW2. The far right fascists and the center-right moderate right wing. So a lot of people look at the dems as the "left" wing since, relative to the only other party, they are. But if you look at the other parties, green party, dsa, psl etc. You'll see that the dems are to the right of all of them.

Or.... Ah why'd they have to be the same word?

American Exceptionalism.

They're so different.

Not at all.