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[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hey now, let's be realistic.

Sometimes it's rich people paying poor people to tell poor people to blame poor people.

Sometimes they aren't even paid, they just do it because they're ~~good little sheep~~ indoctrinated from birth by the ultra wealthy to fight any war but a class war.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 7 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Indoctrinate from birth to fight any war but a class war is a charitable way to say they are stupid.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like it's a bit like Plato's cave.

If a person experiences a specific thing for their entire life, they may very well believe that is the only way things can be.

I certainly believed in my country and capitalism and religion when I was a child. Once I stepped out of my family's sphere of influence and got non religious friends, I finally got to see that isn't the only way of life and all of these things actively harm people. Of course reading the Bible fully helped with the religion one lmao

Of course, some people have experienced that "more" and decided "nah, thee things are good actually and I will argue with internet strangers about the merits of capitalism because daddy bezos told me things are getting better"

You can fix ignorance, but you can't fix stupid.

[–] Sour_Kabos@reddthat.com 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is no good argument against capitalism. I agree there should be some guardrails and regulation, but it's a matter of how much.

At the core it is capitalism though, and it's the supeeior ecinomic model to anything else.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No, to choose ignorance when you don't have to is weak in my eyes. You are not chained to a screen, you can go out and find the truth, they just don't want to, it's weak and should exempt them from failure.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 12 hours ago

Very true. The stupid will fall in line when it's popular to do so though. You just need a critical mass first, which is the only thing pulling along he democratic establishment at this point, they are seen as the "safe" choice, and it's why they are laser focused on defeating leftists. Beating the republicans is secondary to them.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Do you what indoctrination means? Intelligence has very little to do with it. Smart people can also be indoctrinated.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 11 hours ago

There are different types of intelligence. One of which is realizing when people are playing you,

It's so in your face at this point though, no, smart people can't believe party line bullshit, they are either stupid or dishonest.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I take your point, but Indoctrination in the oligarchy's propaganda in this circumstance does indicate a lack of intelligence.

Because the oligarchy is working to make us all slaves, and is incapable of running the country well, and will leave everyone worse off, even the rich, after the degeneration accelerates especially, (after they openly steal elections, (checks watch.))

They are fucking stupid. Unable to see past their next move, trusting the wrong people to lead them, despite overwhelming evidence that the oligarchy and their leaders are the enemy.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I'm gonna blame the perpetrators rather than the victims, but, uh, you do you, I guess?

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