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The Gulf states and the Saudis didn't start the war, but they have long been lobbying for an attack on Iran. They just didn't want their military personnel in the line of fire. They're either useless or, in the case of Saudi, too busy committing genocide against Yemenis.
Also in the case of the Saudis also useless. I think the only competent Arab states are Oman and Jordan. As I understand it Yemen is too fractured to really be counted one way or another, even I am tempted to add them to the list.
I think Trump's best course of action is to take the loss, pull out and try to sell it as a "mission accomplished" at home, which might just work for the redhats.
Then he still has to hope that the mullahs take the win and leave it at that, not trying to avenge the old Khameini any further.
And he still has to hope that he hasn't permanently damaged the alliances with the Gulf states.
And he still has to hope that the economic chaos he's started doesn't escalate and it doesn't take too long to return to normal.
Etc.
I.e. the US is very likely fucked in the long term. But all other options seem even worse.
It isn't revenge for khameini.
The Iranians have tried to negotiate in good faith for decades. Now they need to inflict as much pain and violence on the global economy so people know not to fuck with them any more. The only reason to come to the table for them is if they think they can't maintain drone/missile launches.
And he still has to hope that he hasn’t permanently damaged the alliances with the Gulf states.
And he still has to hope that the economic chaos he’s started doesn’t escalate and it doesn’t take too long to return to normal.
Unless those were his marching orders in the first place. Trump is a chaos agent, and he uses the disorder he causes to commit more acts of corruption and more power grabs. Every self-created crisis is a pretext to commit the next crime.
Yeah, taking the L would be best for everyone in the short term, but the Iranians must seek nuclear arms now, at any cost, because it’s the only thing that makes other countries take each other seriously so it seems. So the options of the US all suck:
I really don’t see any other option here. The market will tank, energy prices go trough the roof, we hit another depression, and everyone the world over feels the pain. 30% of Americans will still back this play because of “freedom” or because “Kamala would have done the same thing” (I disagree, but guess who did do this? NOT KAMALA).
This die was cast when Trump tore up the nuclear deal which met be the biggest strategic blunder since Bush The Lesser invaded Iraq for no reason other than to “get even”.
My entire life we’ve been at war and I can’t believe we’re here again…
He is incapable of that.
He'll probably just start nuking Iran instead.
Hmm. Maybe he can put a tariff on Iran? Or maybe build a wall around it?
Whole world suffering because Americans can't handle their pedophiles.
We're never going to be respected like before. We're never going to have the same soft power.
Thanks conservatives.
They should start adding convenience fees to US oil.
The US is absolutely defenseless against hidden fees and surcharges.
The reason that every other US president has ruled out war with Iran is exactly because of this tactic. It takes a group of really ignorant, egotistical, and foolhardy leaders to melt through the layers of decision making that underlie such a course of action.
The more Trump screams on social media and Hegseth bully pulpits while whining about media coverage, the worse this war is going. Look for more avoidable Air Force and Navy incidents, more dead American soldiers, and a civilian bloodbath that will take decades to unravel the implications of.
So the middle east countries paid top dollar to get the US 'president' to do all the things they wanted, and he ended up screwing every single one of them. When you get in bed with trump, he will eventually shit the bed, and you will have to lie in it with him. You deserve the stupid choice you made.