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With the recent announcement of Motorola partnering with GrapheneOS, I got curious about installing a custom rom like LineageOS or/e/OS on my Moto G Power (vegas) because I've been meaning to degoogle for a while now. As far as I can tell, Motorola has all the keys to be a primary development target: OEM supported boot unlocking, cheap devices, accessible hardware, etc. Why have their devices largely been ignored by custom ROM developers?

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[–] kahnclusions@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Motorola has always been a mediocre phone developer. It's been better since they got absorbed into Lenovo, but they still aren't that popular or good.

Android security is so bad these days that GrapheneOS is basically the only reasonable option, so it is a welcome change to see a non-Google manufacturer working with them.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Motorola aint what it used to be, owned by lenovo now, atleast the consumer portion is.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

When Motorola was American-owned, they weren't updating phones, and blaming Nvidia. Talking about the Sunfire (Photon 4G on Sprint, and Electrify 3G on US Cellular), but I'm sure there were others. The Atrix (AT&T one, but older) got one update, largely assumed (but never confirmed) to be because AT&T pushed them to update it.

Motorola was never good. The Moto X was a big selling point because it was made in the US, but it had like 8GB or 16GB of storage and they didn't put a memory card slot in it (back when everyone else but Apple was). I forget which it was, but my wife had one, and there was only the one size, and that phone basically sucked ass. The Moto G was a bit more versatile over its generations, but all of them sucked in one way or another. I think the only one that was anywhere approaching decent was the original DROID. And that phone was largely a gimmick.

My wife once had the Droid Turbo 2. The one with the "Kevlar" back. That phone was such trash, but it held itself out as some kind of super premium thing. Like it wanted to be the iPhone of the Android world, or rather, that one manufacturer that makes shitty Android phones but puts them in a leather case to appeal to the ultra rich (and ultra stupid).

I just heard the iPhone 5 got pushed from "Vintage" (no longer sold, but still serviced) to "Obsolete" (no longer serviced) by Apple. I would rather have an iPhone 5 than pretty much any Motorola. I dare say it would work better and for longer (assuming both phones were factory sealed and everything was in perfect working order). Fun fact: it was the last iPhone without any kind of biometric authentication, and it had a headphone jack. Sadly it only went up to 64GB (or 32GB or 16GB), so 4-8X what a Moto X had.

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Motorola was never good, at smartphones. If you look back just a little further they were pretty great.

Although, if I remember right they did manufacture the Nexus 6 which was pretty well liked at the time.

Yeah, I meant smartphones. I had the v120 and some letter, I forget, and the ROKR z6m slider. Both awesome phones. And of course they make industrial radios (mainly for police, hence the saying "You can't outrun Motorola"?).

[–] canthangmightstain@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

All of which is easy to look back and say. Nobody knew what was going to win out at the time. The Moto X was great for its size and customizability for the price (as in you could literally change the colors), the G was a budget phone that also offered customization.

And you’re mistaken, the Moto X had multiple different sizes starting at 16GB. I had the 32GB developer edition myself.

Maybe later it did. At launch it was just 16GB and that's what my wife got. I heard they came out with a 32GB version later.

I can say what I can say now because hindsight is 20/20 but I also lived through those days, so I can also say what I experienced.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cursing your take in 680x0

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The chips in the old Macs? Shit, I forgot about those. Not usable today for anything you can't do on Apple Silicon, but I do have many fond memories of pre-PPC Macs, from the Mac Classic (whatever that run) to System 7 on post-Jobs Performas and Quadras and LCIIIs. Apple kinda sucked when they were trying to be like other PC manufacturers, but I do have good memories of System 7 (and jailbreaking out of At Ease at school, fuck At Ease, all the homies hated At Ease).

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

APPLE? You go stub your fucking toe. Apple. You go fucking get pepper all over your kitchen floor and sneeze trying to clean it up. Goddamn Apple!! You go unexpectedly read an obituary for someone you haven't thought about in 30 years and feel weird all day long, damn you! Apple. Bah.

Actually, the 680x0 family was and is used in thousands of applications.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

atleast

Not a word, my dude.

[–] atropa@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lineage works fine on edge 30 neo,no problem for installing.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Fair point, I should have specified my phone. I have a Moto G Power 2025 (vegas)

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I'm not a ROM developer but I had a Motorola phone and I could see why maybe it would have been ignored for custom ROMs, it had a few non-standard features that were great when using the phone, but I think a pain to support, it had a little touchpad in the bottom center that you could swipe your thumb on to do 'gestures' in android like back, recent apps, home, etc. I really liked it but its another weird feature you have to keep working when you're supporting the phone after the manufacturer stopped providing updates.

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