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[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 130 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why was chat control allowed to be presented again in the first place.

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is the real thing, this is almost certainly unconstitutional.

greedy corps going against law as usual.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

No, not really. It's because they retracted the proposal before going to vote, because they knew it wouldnt pass after Germany publicly said they would vote against.

Then they changed some stuff and send it again, which is now rejected as it seems.

Now they need to wait, but they didnt before.

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So this war is far from an end huh?

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago

They won't stop pushing until they get it

[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

We have to win every time. They only need to win once.

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[–] leagman1@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] guy@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Commission probably since they're the only entity who can propose law

[–] leagman1@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How do I respond to this^^

Yes, I think we're all assuming the law came into parliament the regular way. I assumed the "they" are supposed lobbyists who are standing behind and outside the regular entity..

Am I missing something or are you pulling a Nielsen on me? "Coffee?" "Yes, I know."

[–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, sorry. Thought you actually didn't knew, my bad!

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why do we have to keep fighting our own government for our rights? Why can't our government just represent us?

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Governments don't represent the common people anymore.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

We should topple the EU then tbh

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

Because unfortunately our rights are opposed to the will of capital and they serve capital first and foremost

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

To put it in Douglas Adams words: Because the politicians are lizards ;)

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can it just fuck off for good this time?

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

it's indicative of the system we're in. our oligarchs have enough money to pay people to push for this in perpetuity while the rest of us are forced to give up some degree of our lives to fight it off on a field of battles that's tilted towards money; they will win eventually unless the system itself is changed.

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

BY ONE FUCKING VOTE!

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189574

Vote out every single fucker who is trying to limit our freedoms!

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thats actually insane in itself that it got that close. Next time they will succeed. :/

People are so stupid to support this. They dont seem to understand that its never about protecting anyone and its always about building dystopia.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Even worse I think there was one more vote for the extension but they need 50% +1 to pass and there were 24 abstentions.

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[–] ceigid@feddit.org 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Will they just revote again then until it passes?

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

hopefully no. but we are still in danger

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is indeed the plan. Only 1 time is enough to get this through the system. But it requires 500 times saying no first.

[–] guy@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When the European Union is low-key IRA

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would make us Margaret Thatcher, which is very gross

[–] guy@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well based on the seats in the parliament, most eu voters are rightwing to some degree. So it's Tatcher going undercover IRA to bomb herself?

[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Where can I see who voted for and against? I want to know if I need to change who I vote for next EU election.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Scroll down and select your country: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

It's always the ones you most expect.

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[–] chigga@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I think that Patrick posted it. basically the ones against where the conservatives, both left and right where against (even if there were some people inside those parities who voted to continue the scanning)

EDIT: apparently EPP voted against not because they want to support privacy but because the proposal was not enough invasive. they were afraid that it would have stopped their Chat control 2.0 proposal.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For those of us out of the loop, who is Patrick?

[–] kapulsa@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably Patrick Breyer, who often posts about privacy issues in the EU parliament.

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/

[–] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Definitely not a Krusty Krab

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

i think they mean patrick breyer from the german pirate party

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 39 points 2 weeks ago

We should go to war against corpocracy, until all corporations are bankrupt.

EVERY. DAMN. ONE.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why can't they vote on a ban to do any chat control bills? Stop this nonsense from happening again.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

If you have money you can ask the lobbyists.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

they will keep trying in the most sneaky ways until they are deposed. they only need to succeed once.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Let’s celebrate this victory… even though it’s concerning that it is a recurring topic :-/

[–] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good, but pretty meaningless overall while they still allow lobbying to take place.

They pretend to care that lobbying means corruption from corporate interests, but doing anything meaningful to stop lobbying entirely and punish anyone still doing it would be "authoritarian communism" now, wouldn't it?

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They'll just change a few things and try again. I feel like we've been hearing about chat control on and off for about 5 years now and I can't imagine it'll go away soon.

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Dude, we're protesting now until all those fuckers who voted in favor of chat control are voted out of parliament. We have names!

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Saw this then scrolled more to see the EU going after porn sites for age verification. 😞

[–] prex@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

About fucking time for some good news.

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

It is concerning news, because we narrowly dodged it this time by one vote.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Congratulations!

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