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[–] L3s@lemmy.world 3 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] LemmySilverBot@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

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[–] professionalbalkan@lemm.ee 15 points 1 hour ago

This in combination with deregulating the single market and allowing EU tech startup to thrive would finally give birth to real competitors on our content.

GoEU

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

Yeah and make it 200%

[–] wax@feddit.nu 107 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Maybe fix the Irish tax loophole first?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 52 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Exactly. Never do anything until you can do everything all at once. If you can't wave a magic wand and solve all problems everywhere, it's best to just keep the status quo.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 191 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Don’t use tariffs. Legalize jailbreaking and adversarial interop instead. Disregard American DRM.

https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 108 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

The real money is in AWS, azure,GCP. No one cares about your iPad. Tariff the big 3 hosting providers and see how quickly shit hits the fan.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Bonus: It might make some companies move to non-US hosters, making their data way safer.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Put a tariff on the companies that was pro-Trump, and who was at his inauguration.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Would probably end the Internet faster than China can cut intercontinental cables. I'm here for it but the fallout would be positively insane.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Of course it would not.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There are plenty of providers, this is a little reactionary. I've worked with a local data center for hosting in every state I've lived in.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

It's not about the providers, it's about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let's be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.

And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.

[–] person1@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you'd already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

This is why you give notice; this isn't an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.

I'm not saying I'm against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I'm sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don't have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn't spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn't always easy.

I'm with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it's painful.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'd double my mortgage just to see microsoft365 crumble.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But you love teams right?! (get the gas can - I'll get the matches)

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

There is no feature that is simpler than gsuite. So much duplication and needless services and apps.

I hate google and microsoft for making me appreciate their product.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Or they'll just pay the extra money and avoid all that.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That is pretty much how the VMware situation shook out.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, we've got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They'd rather pay the Danegeld.

[–] balssh@lemm.ee 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

From the ashes maybe a better internet will emerge then. The current one is very dogshit and only going worse.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 58 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Don’t just legalise jailbreak (which was never illegal anyway 😂), but force device manufacturers to unlock root as soon as they end support for the device.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Then they will offer shit support to avoid doing so. Simpler and safer to just make unlocking legit from the start.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Why not force them to unlock root from the start?

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Yes, of course, but I think, like I wrote it, it is more likely to happen in reality 😁 but of course, I would prefer from the start as well

Like just hide it in developer settings which as well are hidden. No noob should accidentally go there, but a malicious being may lead a noob there…

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 39 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

How about not letting Google have exclusive rights to the drivers for all the phone hardware? I would like to be able to install Linux on any phone I buy. I don't want Google monopolizing phone operating systems. #FOSS #Linux #FuckGoogle #Monopoly #deGoogle

[–] 486@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How about not letting Google have exclusive rights to the drivers for all the phone hardware?

What exactly do you mean by that? Google is one of the few companies that let you easily unlock their phones so you can do whatever you want with them.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Unlock so you can use whatever phone service provider you want but Google controls the Android operating system. If you don't want Android on your phone and would rather use Linux or another FOSS operating system, it's very difficult, because Google doesn't give up control of the drivers for a lot of phones. If you just want to remove Google apps from a phone that comes with Android, you have to jailbreak it which voids the warranty and jailbreaking can't be done to every phone.

[–] 486@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, unlock as in: You can install whatever operating system you want. No need for "jailbreaking" on Google phones. They officially support unlocking the bootloader (and re-locking it later as well!). There are many things not to like about Google, but how they handle their phones when it comes to openness is certainly not one of them. Pretty much all other phone vendors are much worse than that (except for maybe a few small ones like Fairphone).

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You are talking about phones made by Google. I am talking about ALL the phones using Android and how difficult or sometimes impossible it is to use anything but Android. I am talking about (oranges) a monopoly on phone operating systems. And you are saying what great (apples) phones Google produces.

[–] 486@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

You are talking about phones made by Google. I am talking about ALL the phones using Android and how difficult or sometimes impossible it is to use anything but Android.

That's not what you were saying. You were explicitly talking about Google. Also, implying it is Google's fault that other manufacturers don't let you install other operating systems easily is pretty bizarre. If you want to complain about that, at least complain about the right companies. Those are usually the phone manufacturers and/or the SoC manufacturers. The SoC manufacturers often times are particularily problematic, since they often do not publish open source drivers at all or in a very limited fashion.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago
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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 288 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. Tech billionaires are the ones who stood behind Trump proudly on inauguration day, so let's start using Canadian/European options. Plenty of them match what those tech companies offer anyway.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Deleted meta acccount with a note referencing trump and zuck. Not much but its what I had to do

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 115 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (43 children)

I believe this is how we can cripple the US.

I just switched my services over and there are some great alternatives, we have just been pre-programmed to use the American default brands.

Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon all easy to replace.

The only challenging one so far is YouTube, content is just lacking elsewhere, but atleast with adblockers YouTube isn't getting my money.

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