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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or they see how other men and women treat effeminate men. Not everyone is projecting.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why do you think effeminate men are treated that way?

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wherever you're going with this is probably going to be irrelevant to my point so I'll just ignore it.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Effeminate men aren't treated poorly in isolation was more the point I was going to make.

You can pretend that the patriarchy doesn’t affect you, but it’s just a facade.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 6 points 1 day ago

How do you read a comment that talks about men treating femininity poorly and conclude it's ignoring the existance of the patriarchy?

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not necessarily he. It may be society in which he exists.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's not hide behind "society".

Let's take up OPs challenge and, each of us, take a hard look at how we treat and think of women, and if we were a woman, would we like being treated that way?

[–] Viceversa@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Say that to a progressive man living in Afghanistan.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I'll say that to any man or to any rodent that needs to hear it.

Putting yourself in another person's place and using that as the measure of how people should act is not a question of society, culture or religion.

It's basic human decency and human rights, and the cornerstone of many a religion, if you're so inclined.

I'm not saying that this Afghan man needs to march outside this very instant with posters and protest for women's rights, that would accomplish nothing other than getting shot.

What I'm saying is that every one of us needs to reflect on how we treat others - and it doesn't matter who, men, women, white, black, anything - and if we wouldn't want to be treated in the same way, then we need to change what we're doing.

If you don't understand this, you're scum and I don't want you anywhere near me or my loved ones.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

No, that's simply an insecure man.

A lot of shy men might also not like to be seen as feminine or seen at all.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Is this one reversible? A woman that doesn't want to seem masculine treats men badly?

How does it consider trans men who want to be perceived with their gender, not their assigned one?

This one I'm sorry but I don't buy it. It might have negative connotations in some cases, but as a broad generalization doesn't hold water

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

Good gotcha.

Beautiful.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

How this connects to production? I think that this would be better to place in other comunities.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Feminism is core left ideology. Liberation is for all.

Exactly. Recently I told someone that I don't think it's possible to be an effective feminist without being anti-capitalist. It works the other way too — even if one doesn't actively identify as a feminist, anyone who is interested in resisting capitalism must acknowledge the importance of feminism

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

I mean, feminism and equality are directly linked to socialism

Can't have one without the other

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

It's an honest mistake, they meant to post on Memes of Re-production.

[–] desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll clarify, a hero to us all.