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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

A kilobyte must have sounded like so much memory back then.

A byte is 8 bits. Even if we want to call bits quarters ($0.25) and bytes dollars, 69KB would be $69,000! That's a lot of dollars.

(And it's actually 1,024 or something instead of 1,000, which just increases it that much more).

It's crazy how KBs used to be incredibly meaningful, and now we're buying multi-TB drives like they're nothing!

EDIT: Math fail. Let's say TWO bits are a quarter...lmao

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

buying multi-TB drives like they’re nothing!

😭

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

Well...up until recently

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Last year, I bought a 22TB hard drive to recover from a 17TB drive failure. I barely got my wife to agree to the one drive, and simply could not convince her that we should get a backup. Our compromise was that I'd add a category to our budget with a year-long goal for a new hard drive. On Friday, I bought my new hard drive after wiping out the category, cashing some old bonds, and borrowing some money from a friend who also uses my server. I wanna fucking cry...

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

I remember my first 2GB flash drive. I thought I had sooo much storage...

Years later when I learned I could get an SD card with 32GB, I was like "It comes in 32GB? 🤯"

And don't even get me started on my first 1TB hard drive!

[–] pemptago@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't a byte be $2 if a bit was a quarter, or do you mean 2 bits are a quarter? Also i think you were right to use powers of 10 in your estimate. Article says kilobyte, not kibibyte. I really like what your conversion illustrates, I'm just tripping up on the details. I could be wrong-- commenting so someone can correct me if i am-- if a bit is a quarter, 69 Kilobytes would be $138,000

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

LOL...yes. should've been an Eighth, but we don't have a coin for that.

Your math is right. I was just thinking of a Byte as $1.00 and going from there. Then remembered that bits are smaller, but they shouldn't be $1 because a single bit is not very powerful. But making it worth $1 or $0.01 would make the math messier.

But yes. Two bits are a quarter is probably the best compromise! Lol

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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was alive when computer RAM was measured in MB, not GB. Yes, I am an old codger

[–] axh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was alive when computer RAM was measured in KB and when you wanted to have more of it, you had to manually solder it to the main board... Youngling.

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Funny observation on the side:

This content is geoblocked in Germany.
And, as far as I can tell, trying a few destinations with my VPN: only in Germany...

So what the hell is in there, that we Germans must not see???? 😆

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fear of change and modernization. :)

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

😆

It's blocked on the server side, though... (nginx message).

Maybe some German "Neuland" shenanigans the page owner doesn't want to be exposed to ...

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a slippery slope. If you let the village know there’s a ship sailing the cosmos then next thing you know they’ll want the rathaus to use email instead of fax. Just best to follow the rules and keep things the way they are.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You already know too much, ja?

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

l would say there is more advanced information tech in 70s era Voyager than in a typical current German public administration office. ;-)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So france, austria, works? Else, if europe, it could be not wanting to comply with GDPR. Or germnay has a few extra rules they don't like.

Edit: Switzerland works, but maybe because IP ranges aren't that exact.

Archive link

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Had been thinking the same at first.
But France and Austria did work. Only Germany was blocked.
Only thing that is unique to Germany I can think of is the hate speech laws that are very specific towards Nazi symbolism and Holocaust treatment.
Maybe they had some article (or comments from users...) once that collided with that and decided to just block Germany to make their life less stressful.

[–] robsteranium@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe they really couldn't be bothered with writing an Impressum!

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It and its sibling are probably the only working examples of flywire memory left in existence. That memory with little ferrite cores threaded with 3 wires was very labour intensive to make but was the backbone of the entire computing industry at the time. Very solid and reliable.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In 1977 69 KB was huge memory. First home PC's from 1980 and 1981 like ZX81 they have 1 KB of memory. One.

[–] mememuseum@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The Commodore 64 came out in 1982 and famously had 64KB of memory.

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[–] Tywele@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Its hard to maintain a link with a craft outside or solar system. There's a very tight orientation requirement and you have to set a very large delay for the expected response.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But 403 is "Forbidden".
So...

[–] HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Leslie Nielsen?! Who does he play? The robot or the woman in the robots hands?

[–] Jambone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

He plays "Commander Adams". It's been a while since I've seen it, but as I recall it's a pretty decent sci-fi movie. And it's the only serious role that I think I've ever seen him in.

[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

He was a dramatic actor up until he did Airplane! That's one of the reasons he was cast in the role.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Surely you can’t be serious.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

and don't call me Shirley

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[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Come on now, it's not that bad.

Voyager 1 is just 23h 32m 9.981s light seconds away.

One way.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

So slightly better ping than my ISP, then.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It takes me about a day to respond to messages too. Therefore I'm also ~23 light hours away.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully it doesn't get blown up by some bored Klingon.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aliens find it and love our retro tech. "8 track!"

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

aliens arrive on Earth with a brutal message of aggression:

"Puny Earthlings! We have surpassed your pathetic 8-track technology and have invented... 9-track tapes! Cower before our might!"

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry aliens but you'll need to go back to your science labs because we have since discovered how to compact discs themselves. No more data discs the size of records, we can fit an entire 70 minutes worth of full fidelity (to our ears) digital audio and then surpassed even that and managed to get it up to 74 minutes! 700 times 2 to the power of 23 bits of arbitrary data (or maybe it's just 700 times 8,000,000, we never did figure out the concept of honestly describing things marketers want to sell), all within our outstretched fingers or around a single extended finger.

[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does anyone know if the code that Voyager 1 (or similar era tech) is running is available anywhere for inspection? I would love to poke around in such a historical code base.

[–] edgarde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't really understand what I'm looking at, but this looks like a good place to start:

https://github.com/SRF0x41/Voyager1

There are links to actual code at JPL, but I don't know if everything is published online.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why 8 tracks? They always sucked, even when they were in their prime. Cassettes were always the far superior format in every way.

The only advantage an 8 track might have is that it was on a loop, so it would repeat by being on a single hub, and, spooling out from the center, and regathering on the outside. That required a dry lubricant on the back of the tape, that would eventually wear off, and the tape would jam up. It was even more prevalent with longer than average albums, like double albums (White Album, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, etc.).

I guarantee that that 8-track loop jammed up decades ago.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The “8 Track” in Voyager is not your standard 8 track, it’s a DTR and is arranged differently than the consumer tape cartridge for music. It was shut down about a decade ago, not because it was failing, but because of the power requirements.

FWIW, 8 tracks were pretty good sound for the time. Previously there was no portable music unless you brought a record player with you. They got passed up quickly by the cassette, though.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So theres not enough magnetism out there to negatively affect the recordings?

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