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    There is no old computer only bad os.

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    [–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 7 points 1 month ago

    Old but gold.

    [–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Except if you have an old NVIDIA card. The current kernel doesn’t support the old binary drivers anymore and the nouveau drivers are slow and buggy.

    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I mean that's sorta the point of DKMS?

    [–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    DKMS doesn’t mean it’s supported forever. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA lists incompatibilities with kernel and CPU features.

    Kepler and newer GPUs don’t work with Linux kernel 5.18 and newer.

    NVIDIA also doesn’t update legacy drivers for newer versions of XOrg and Wayland after support ends.

    https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/

    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Of course nothing is supported forever, I personally wouldn't expect support past a decade (official or unofficial)

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    [–] Steve@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)
    [–] WanderingThoughts 11 points 1 month ago

    I got it working out of the box with bazzite.

    [–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Yes, that’s a new card well supported by the proprietary driver. I’m talking about cards older than 5 or 10 years.

    The post specifically mentions old computers.

    [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    My 1080Ti works out of the box with the bazzite-nvidia image

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    [–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You don’t need the proprietary one anymore, the open source drivers from nvidia are better

    [–] Cavemanfreak@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Both me and the wife have had to switch to the proprietary ones for gaming, the other ones were bugging out like hell.

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    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

    you need to jump through small hoops for a 1080 and older.

    Talking from experience with a 3090 on ZorinOS (so Ubuntu family so old kernels i think, maybe it's different on more recent ones), it mostly works. The two main problems i encountered are screen tearing across all games, and the screen sleep mode which didn't work (but going from Zorin 17 to 18 solved this one, probably bc newer kernels worked best), and other than that it's been smooth

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    cards from the 2000 series are supposed to be used with the newer kind of official driver, that's supposed to be also more stable than the former one. this driver does not support cards before 2000

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

    That would explain some of the issues I was having with VRAM.

    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    To be fair you can 100% have a PC that's too old and/or too low speced to run Linux with certain desktops. For example I personally wouldn't use a PC with under 8gb of ram today if I wanted to run a modern desktop and Wayland compositors basically require (or soon will) Vulkan 1.0 support (for Nvidia that's Kepler GK110 or later, AMD GCN 1.1 or later, and Intel Broadwell or later)

    [–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    The thing about Linux is that you have choice. You can put Xubuntu on a laptop with a Core 2 Duo and 4GB of RAM and it will fly.

    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You can absolutely keep using older X11 desktops or WMs forever, that doesn't mean you're getting the same experience as everyone else on a modern Wayland desktop or WM

    [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    There is a world of difference between "not getting the best experience" and "the entire computer is unusable now".

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    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

    is anything you can't do with antix on a pentium 4 even worth doing

    [–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

    Kepler GPU need the 470 proprietary driver. It doesn’t work with current kernels 5.18 and newer. Even with an older kernel, I was unable to get Wayland to work.

    Nouveau works with Wayland, but it does Vulkan in software, and had several noticeable visual bugs. I also was unable to get hardware acceleration for video to work even when installing the needed binary firmware. Besides that nouveau‘s feature Matrix is bit lacking.

    Also if you have hybrid graphics in a laptop with Intel Iris and NVIDIA for example (OPTIMUS) there are additional issues to figure out.

    Other hurdles might be wifi and bluetooth chips from Broadcom for example. You might have to install additional drivers, disable powersaving, and configure other tweaks to get Bluetooth audio and wifi to work properly.

    [–] projectmoon@social.agnos.is 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)
    [–] Gulliver@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    windows is crashing linux is flowering, with linux there is no old pc only bad OS.

    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Crashing? With the context of the pictures and similarities with Spanish and Catalan idioms I would say windows stands you up.

    [–] fargeol@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    "planter" in french can mean three things : plant (a seed), crash (a system) or break up (with someone)
    Hence the triple pun

    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    The system crashing I didn't know, does the computer plants itself or it plants you? in Spanish to plant someone or leave someone planted is to not show up on a date, so I would find it very funny if it was the latter.

    Is the break up closer to dumping? I love to learn this kind on nuances.

    [–] scutiger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    "L'ordinateur a planté" means the computer crashed. There's no complement to the verb there, it just "planted."

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    [–] fargeol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    "Ma petite amie m'a planté" is closer to "my girlfriend dumped me", it's a bit familiar. "Break up with X" could be "rompre avec X"

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    [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I don't speak french or Spanish, but in Italian "windows ti ha piantato" it has the same three nuances that op wrote. When a computer is "piantato" it means it's frozen/crashed. Like it's stuck, planted in the ground.

    For example someone can shout "Cazzo!!! Questo cazzo di computer si è piantato e ho perso il salvataggio del cazzo! Cazzo!"

    Also a girlfriend can "piantato" = break up or do no show on appointment. And also "piantato" main meaning is to plant something in the spil

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    [–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, the problem is that it's had to convey the double meaning because "planter" is often used about an electronic device crashing, so it's both windows crashed, and windows stood you up

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    [–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

    This is correct. From Larousse:

    Familier. Abandonner brusquement quelqu'un, quelque chose quelque part : Il m'a planté au coin de la rue.

    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 4 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    windows is crashing linux is flowering, with linux there is no old pc only bad OS.

    Unless it is a 486 and you want to stay current :P

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    I read that to the melody of "What does the Fox say?".

    [–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Windows killing Wireguard is another name in the coffin for me.

    Still need it for Playit Live and Excel VBA but that's about it now.

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

    Use WinBoat to run 2D applications like Excel. I’m not familiar with Playit Live, but it seems to be the kind of application that WinBoat works well with.

    [–] matelt@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

    C'est trop meugnon

    [–] zerobot@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 month ago

    rip bozo 😂

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