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is proton still a viable alternative? (lemmy.studio)
submitted 10 months ago by pirat@lemmy.studio to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml
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I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If you are going to spend time and money migrating to another service, choosing one that seems to be headed in the wrong direction seems ill-adviced.

European-alternatives.eu seems like a good resource to find alternative services.

Personally I am waiting to see if Murena.com restores their nextcloud offering, as I am planning to move to /e/OS on my phone again and wouldn't mind sending a little money their way. I'm not into hypersecurity though, if you have very particular needs others will have better insights. For me having it hosted in the EU is good enough.

[–] pirat@lemmy.studio 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They look pretty good; I can't tell from their site of they offer custom domain support for email.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this point I'd take another look for alternatives to avoid throwing money at this particular CEO clown.

[–] pirat@lemmy.studio 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah - mostly was the hope of this post to see what others you put up.

I had looked at tuta but I'm looking to be able to move my digital workspace (email, calendar, storage, docs, etc) over.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FWIW, tuta offers email, calendar and contacts. That's a good part of it sorted out.

For storage, if you're not up for self hosting Seafile or Nextcloud, look at https://filen.io/

Or, check out https://disroot.org/en which has email, storage, calendar and contacts.

AFAIK none of the above have office suites like you might expect coming from Google or Microsoft, but in my experience installing LibreOffice on your local machine solves that. Not everything needs to run in a browser.

[–] pirat@lemmy.studio 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems murena has all in looking for with the exception of supporting custom domain names (unless you self host). The workspace aspect is important to me as I do a lot of collaborative work that is much easier with shared access to a spreadsheet.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

murena

Sure, if at this point you're still comfortable trusting the same entity with all your cloud services as well as your phone OS (which seems to just be a hardened LineageOS) — go right ahead.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 10 months ago

For me personally this is the selling point, as I can fund their (open source) work rather than sending money to some company that does not contribute to open source. And since everything they offer is based on FOSS, migrating to another provider is easier than for closed source competition.

That said, I get your point. It is a corporation, and it is putting several eggs on one basket.

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

im pretty sure they turned over ip of a french activist (not 100% sure) and when i was checking them out there tor mirror just linked to the clearnet site wich put me off so based on your threat model they can be ok

[–] lemmyarcade@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Privacy Guides.org

This is a great site to see recommended products for use like proton and their alternatives.

While Proton does offer a lot of services that are useful, some people dont want to put all their eggs in one basket and use various products together.

[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. If you don't agree with the CEO, keep in mind that he is not the owner, they moved to a nonprofit structure. Proton's CEO is not the first one saying stupid things, the same happened with Mozilla, Brave, and perhaps many other reputable groups.

Proton products are good, IMHO the layout is OK.

It's good, but not the only one. If you don't feel comfortable with Proton, go to Mailbox.org, Posteo, Tuta. They are smaller, with less products on their portfolio, but reputable and as good as Proton.

[–] badwetter@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tuta is a front for a western intelligence agency from what I understand. Came out in an espionage trial in Canada recently. It was in the news.

[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

👀

[–] throwaway0409103391@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't get why people hate companies based on one person instead of the company as a whole.

[–] pirat@lemmy.studio 1 points 10 months ago

Well the company's board has a choice on who represents them and what their values are as a whole.

If the company thought that this person (CEO on this case) doesn't represent their values effectively they can remove them.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, ACAB: All CEOs Are Bastards. Tim Apple attended Trump’s inauguration.