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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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kamala Harris, as a da, locked people up and refused parole to keep them as slaves fighting fires.

mod says it's misinfo (probably without fact checking) and removes the comment

update:

idk how I was doing mod abuse

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Look, that's the entire reason I disliked her as VP and as a candidate.

But the words you used, the way you used them do not accurately represent the facts of the matter.

So, yeah, it's misinformation. When someone bends facts, that's exactly what it is.

Hyperbole being presented as fact is just another form of misinformation.

Since the only action taken was removal of the comment, I can't see any power tripping, just a difference of opinion about the precise definition of what makes up misinformation.

I can't fully say YDI in this case, because you clearly weren't acting in bad faith to break a rule.

But it also isn't a clueless mod either.

It's somewhere in between those two. The comment being removed was a justifiable action. If they'd done anything at all beyond that, it would have been over the line, but they didn't.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So, based upon your analysis, you'd say ESH?

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Relevant:

In 2014, as overcrowding persisted, a three-judge panel in California ordered the state to make eligible for parole nonviolent prisoners with only two felonies that had served half their sentences. Harris’ lawyers argued early release would harm the prison’s labor program, which included its work program to help fight California’s wildfires. The judges rejected the argument.

Criticism against Harris resurfaced after her announcement for president last month brought heightened scrutiny. In 2014, Harris told BuzzFeed News she was “shocked” to learn about what her lawyers were arguing in court.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So what, she is so utterly incompetent that she doesn’t even know what her own lawyers are doing?

Give me a break. There is no way she was not informed at the time.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

I'm not really here to argue about us politicians, I just felt that as OP didn't provide any sources someone should. I even went with a right leaning newspaper to make it fair to OP.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

PTB. OPs comments are factually correct, even if they are too unpalatable for a liberal audience to accept. We have to assess politicians by their behaviour, not by their lies, and on that basis Kamala absolutely supports the US prison industrial complex aka slave labor. As do all establishment Democrats, who have helped foster this disgusting industry just as much as the Republicans have.

OPs rhetoric on this is actually very chill, considering.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah OP is trying to be clowned on but all it shows is that the flat.world libs are upset at someone calling out bad people doing bad things.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Disputing the early release of prisoners is different than 'locking people up' and people in her office advocating against early release is something that can be attributed to her because she is ultimately reponsible, but is not the same as her refusing to let them be paroled.

What you said is that she put people into jail and forced them to fight fires, which is not what happened.

What you posted was literally misinformation. YDI.

Also, fuck Kamala Harris.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

as a da, then as ag, she sent people to prison.

she kept them there specifically to exploit their labor.

what I posted was true.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except she didn't keep them there because the effort by her office was denied in court, and her job was to lock people up. She didn't prosecute people with the intent to make them fight fires and she didn't get to deny them parole.

She sucks because of being in favor of shitty laws and being pro punishment for non-violent crime, but this specific thing you said is not accurate.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you know I can see how there is some nuance, and how my statements were vague enough to be misinterpreted as misinformation, but the words I chose were true.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 9 months ago (19 children)

She didn't send people to prison. The judges did that. She just successfully argued that they should do it. What you posted was not true.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (16 children)

She sent them there for crimes

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah the American legal system and prison-industrial-complex are notorious for arresting only criminals and not just anyone off the street for say existing while black.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

PTB, everyone here defending the mods and Harris are foolish.

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The "political" mods of lemmy.world always call inconvenient facts, "misinformation". They're trying their best to reproduce the liberal fact-checker culture of around a decade ago where there were liberal nannies evaluating posts for left wing thought and helping to maintain their walled garden of mainstream propaganda. There still are such nannies, of course, but they're more openly reactionary now. This kind of person thinks that if Snoped wrote an article about it, that's all there is to it.

Selectively incurious and intellectually lazy, the real impetus behind this form of liberalism is a simple contradiction: their entire political philosophy is predicated on them being a good and correct and moral person with good and correct and moral views, totally unassailable, but their beliefs are incoherent and often disagree with reality and they spend very little time actually learning and understanding the topics they weigh in on. And they're used to contrasting themselves with more openly reactionary people that are even less likely to be in alignment with reality, which really makes them feel good and correct and moral. So when presented with left thought, i.e. fsr more coherent and informed opinions, they have a little crisis in their identity and lash out, looking for some way to shore up the opinion they hold after all of five minutes of research. Failing that they just act like a big baby.

[–] kux@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

hexbear is back and busily improving fediverse

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

i thought pre-emptively putting sources in when arguing with libs would at least shield me from getting my comments deleted over false accusations of disinfo but it doesn't. Not even the libbiest most mainstream sources can protect you, they cannot deal with their cognitive dissonance and so must completely mute one side.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ptb.

Also What's with all the downvotes on this post?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

The two dozen or so folk on Lemmy who are conditioned to view any criticism of the American Democratic Party as being a Trump supporting fascist.

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