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[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

For context, receiving these bodies creates a war widow obligation roughly equal to 10% of the UAF budget. Most of these corpses were soldiers sent on the disastrous Kursk PR offensive.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/06/ukraine-cost-of-6000-dead-soldiers-thousands-abducted-children-have-vanished.html

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 51 points 3 days ago

Ukraine can't afford to make that many payments to war widows.

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They want to seen as heroes so badly. It's pathetic.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The objective, I believe, is just to make it as grizzly, bloody, and awful as possible, because they have the full backing of Western media. The history books (in the West, anyway) will blame all of it on Russian aggression, and this narrative will be driven into everyone who will listen, in every region they can get their slimy tentacles into.

It's been their game plan all along, as we all know. From the very beginning they intentionally put artillery next to active schools, hid their soldiers in school buses and ambulances, and did everything in their power to maximize their own civilian death tolls, knowing Western media and audiences would blame Russia for every death that could have been easily avoided. These people are fighting for control of the region to remake it as they see fit, and for all their talk of nationalism and the Ukrainian people, they will gladly sacrifice the entire population if it lets them rule what's left to be "pure".

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sadly, history will see the Ukraine War as some sort of holocaust perpetuated by Russia instead of an inhuman meatgrinder by the US and Ukrainian governments.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Disagree. Sooner or later the western version of history will be washed away as China and the AES become the dominant force on Earth. It is inevitable.
The only way to really stop it is with a nuclear Holocaust and at that point, whoever is left probably won't care much about history, as they will just clinging to life.

[–] ArmWorldbuilding@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago

That liberal imperialist audience is getting smaller and more insulated every day. Eventually it will be narrowed down to two core constituencies: Live Laugh Love real estate agents and kill-all-immigrants carwash owners.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Western history for sure, but I imagine Russia, China, and most of the world will recognize the truth. It just sucks for us stuck living in the empire.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

they will gladly sacrifice the entire population if it lets them rule what’s left to be “pure”.

They outright said said so in the 30s and 40s. edit: To the downvoter - the cited part is basically a quote from Roman Shukhevych, one of the OUN leaders. Turns out your "jabba utini" heroes are nazis.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Iirc, didn't Hitler also say something to the effect that if Germans lost to the USSR, they deserved to be killed wholesale? Fash really do expect total annihilation for one side or the other, and seem to take peace as an opportunity only to try again later. It's disgusting.