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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (41 children)

Anybody who has mixed feelings about him need to listen to his interview with Jon Stewart on the Weekly Show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-itNjgCJDxU

MSM/Corporate Media are doing a massive smear campaign on him because he's railing against the Iran war and against Israel's incursions. The money machine is stacking against him and he needs as much support as possible. The tattoo is a red herring.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

MSM/Corporate Media are doing a massive smear campaign on him because he’s railing against the Iran war and against Israel’s incursions.

What is infuriating about Platner isn't that his rhetoric is bad or that his totenkomf is "fake news" or whatever. It's that it really is just Platner or actual fascists.

In a better world, Platner would not be a viable candidate, because he'd be running against a dozen Zohran Mamdani's. In this world, it's Platner versus The Genocide Machine.

And I'm not going to vote for the Genocide Machine. I'm still disgusted that a Shoot-And-Cry Iraq Vet is the best we can do.

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[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

MFW the tankies all fell for Israeli smear campaigns

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Well I mean there's a lot of y'all who saw one documentary by PETA about the worst farm in the US, maybe world (a farm that no farmer I've met would mind seeing shit down) and decided that that's every farm.

Propaganda doesn't stop being propaganda when it's your side pushing it. The most important lesson I learned from being in too many cults is that: if you tell a precisely told truth in the right time and at the right spot, you can mislead people (i.e. lie) very easily and with plenty of deniability.

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[–] Legonatic@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The mental gymnastics of purity tests for every candidate are going to be the downfall of American democracy.

I understand distrust in politicians, but come on, this isn't a case of the lesser of two evils. It's a regular guy who is putting forth progressive policy ideas and a proven supporter of everything wrong with modern politics. Not to mention, Collins does almost nothing for her constituents anymore and is so out of touch it's absurd.

Mainers fortunately don't care about the purity test nonsense.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing will ever be good enough for the contrarian asshats who just want everything to burn down.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Every time I get into it with one of these people online it goes exactly the same way:

Them, acting like Nazis and pointing fingers: "Platner has NAZI tattoos!"

Me: [pointing out that Platner is up against literal fascists, building concentration camps and filling them with immigrants; Hegseth has proven and unambiguous Nazi tats and acts like a Nazi; etc]

Them: "But his tattoos! His TATTOOOOOOS!"

It's all they have. And if they don't care about Hegseth's multiple Nazi/white nationalist tats, don't even have an answer for them, then why should I care about Platner's? Without the actual ideology behind it, it's just ink, and it's pretty clear that whatever Platner is, he's not an ideological Nazi, so I don't give a good goddamn how many tats Platner has.

So now every time these motherfuckers start pearl-clutching about Platner, a voice reaches up from the past in my head and softly says,

"I believe that the president has learned from this case. The president has been impeached. That’s a pretty big lesson.”

That little voice never fails. Bless Susan Collins for that turd of wisdom she dropped back in 2020 as sufficient reason not to convict in the Senate impeachment trial, because that same stupid ass line is still ringing through the years. Trump did indeed learn his lesson: that Susan Collins would never act to lift a finger against him.

I wouldn't vote for Mills, either. But Collins is not worthy of the office, nor of the great state that sent her. Maine can do better. I'd vote for Platner just because of Collins.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People have a legitimate fear of electing another John Fetterman who will say everything right until they have the seat, then turn around and end up a Republican sleeper. That's not an entirely unfounded concern. Unfortunately, all we have to convince them otherwise is words, and the Democrat party doesn't exactly have a high degree of trust among people for the quality of their vetting right about now.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

The problem here is that whatever Platner is, Collins is actively working to destroy democracy in this country.

Platner is unproven, but that is all he is.

Collins, on the other hand, IS proven -- to be corrupt and working against the best interests of her constituents and this country.

You did not actually directly address anything I said, you just tried to change the conversation back to "Platner bad" along with some spurious "we" claims. But there is NO "we" anywhere in what you said for me.

And the direct reason for my absence in your assumed "we" -- I mean beside the fact that you personally are Canadian and not an American Democrat -- is Zohran Mamdani.

Platner could be a Fetterman or a Sinema, true. But he could also be a Mamdani. And at the very fucking least he won't be a Collins.

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[–] paraplu@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Let me start by saying Fetterman is bad, and PA deserves better. But looking back on the election it still seems like the voters made the best choice available at the time.

There are good reasons to be uncertain about Planter, but he seems unlikely to be quite as bad as the current situation.

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[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

There’s a lot we don’t know, and a chance we’ll find out all about it. I do, however, know these two things. One, Platner is almost certain to be the Democratic nominee. Two, short of revelations involving murder, rape, or a taste for child pornography, Platner needs to be backed by Democrats to the hilt. That may seem like a really low bar, and maybe it is. But I’m less interested in his personal life than I am in Collins’s public one, because that’s what really matters here.

So let us now return to the question of Collins’s week. The Senate cast a bunch of votes last week. And Collins did what she always does when she’s up for reelection—she voted with the Democrats on the ones people pay attention to, and as a Republican on the others.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago

There's not another option. Platner is incredibly popular - outfundraising the sitting democrat governor! - and vocally supports some progressive causes.

Susan Collins has consistantly voted with our fascist regime while pretending she's a moderate. She needs to go.

The effort and money the regime is focusing against Platner shows how much of a threat they see him as. He does need to win, and opponents of our fascist regime shouldn't be listening to the regime's attempts to defeat him.

[–] speaksintv@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s pretty amazing he can have so little come out against him, allegedly, that he was “physically threatening” (I.e. he never was physically abusive) and he had some raunchy texts and people even consider voting for the party of a felon and Epstein child rapists.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I can't believe people would rather have Susan Collins over an imperfect progressive.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's fucking surreal. Donald Trump is a rapist, who appears in the Epstein files thousands of times. He's on camera bragging about sexual assault. About this, apparently nobody gives a shit.

Meanwhile a Democrat has some women come out of the woodwork saying he was kind of a mean drunk and yelled sometimes. And now America is going to pretend like couples don't fight. Oh me, oh my, this man once got into a passionate argument! Somebody find me a new set of pearls, because the ones I've been clutching have mysteriously turned to dust.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not mixed at all. I want a progressive who won't back down from MAGAs, who won't be intimidated, who won't be polite, who will have the courage to crush MAGA.

If he does those things, and later starts getting weird, we'll deal with him then, but right now we need strong courageous warriors, not polite weenies like Schmuck.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

No question. At this point and after primaries I view anyone not fully onboard with getting rid of Republican congress by voting Dem as being complicit with or maga themselves.

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The elites are my enemy and they are doing everything to make sure he doesn't get elected. Voting literally costs you nothing. It seems obvious. Are the Platner haters even real people? Are they even from Maine?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
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