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It's a golf cart. But these have utility around Mexico city.
"We should not let them into our country,” Farley said during an appearance on Fox & Friends, according to Bloomberg. “Manufacturing is the heart and soul of our country, and for us to lose that to those exports would be devastating to our country.”
Ford CEO Jim Farley is so full of shit. Ford is making trucks in Mexico and Canada and no longer has lower cost options, just big stupid trucks with plastic engine oil pans.
plastic engine oil pans.
I had to do a double-take. Holy crap you're not kidding. Considering that it's a feature of metal pans to deform (instead of cracking or breaking) when colliding with something, switching to a brittle material is just asinine. WTF, Ford?
Farley also told media there is a shortage of mechanics at car dealers making $120,000 a year. No flat rate Ford mechanic makes that.
Farley lies so much he should get into politics.
You can also find videos of Ford mechanics finding new vehicles with cobbled brackets because of parts shortages.
Volkswagen has been doing that for a least a decade or more. I had a 2018 alltrack which had one. At least in that case there was another thick plastic skid plate covering it and other parts. The biggest PITA is the high probability of stripping the drain plug.
Mexico has 36M cars currently on the road. I would be more worried if I was an American selling into the Mexican market
Sen. Elissa Slotkin and Rep. Haley Stevens recently introduced the Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act, which aims to ban connected cars built or designed in China, as well as other adversarial countries like Russia and Iran, from entering the U.S.
Love a bipartisan commitment to bad economic policy
ban connected cars
Does that mean that unconnected Chinese cars are OK? Talk about a win-win... just pull the SIM / antenna.
"Protect us from Chinese cars", fuck these dipshits. Have they ever considered protecting us from crushing poverty or environmental collapse? "OH MUH GOD ITS A CHINA CAR!! TAKE COVER!!!"
They are portecting "the economy", that is, elon musk 😅.. Lol.
Unsurprisingly, some U.S. lawmakers are already trying to stop those cars from coming over the border.
Sen. Elissa Slotkin and Rep. Haley Stevens recently introduced the Protecting America from Chinese Cars Act, which aims to ban connected cars built or designed in China, as well as other adversarial countries like Russia and Iran, from entering the U.S.
This is something Ford CEO Jim Farley called for earlier this year.
“We should not let them into our country,” Farley said during an appearance on Fox & Friends, according to Bloomberg. “Manufacturing is the heart and soul of our country, and for us to lose that to those exports would be devastating to our country.”
Capitalists and CEOs: It's not free market when I have to compete!
Finally a good looking EV
Put a pop up camper top on it and I’ll take two
Top speed of 31mph, and with a camper on top, it will be even a bit slower than that. 77 miles of range also isn't a lot for something you want to go camping in. If your campground is more than 38 miles from the nearest charger, you're just shit out of luck -- not to mention that your camper on top will also significantly reduce range...
It sounds shitty and awesome and exactly what I want.
Can you fit fold out solar panels and a power station in it?
FTA:
It also has enough space to transport someone in a wheelchair and be charged using regular power outlets at home, with a plug similar to what you would use for a microwave or refrigerator.
So yes, and also, your power station doesn't even need a special EV charging port adapter, just an extension cord.
Yeah, top speed ain't high, but uh, just park, camp for a sunny day or two, recharge your car.
Infinite range at tortoise speeds, at least when the sun is out... which I hear is fairly often, in Mexico, and/or when most people would want to go on a vacation.
EDIT
Ok so from here, it has a 14.7 kWh battery, in the car.
So, roughly realistically, to fully recharge the battery from empty, in a single sunny day, you'd need something like 8 500W panels, or 10 400W panels, or 12 300W panels.
Or, if you assume 2 sunny days, half the panel count.
Now, that many solar panels + power station is probably about half as expensive as the car itself, but you absolutely could fit them into this thing, or just mount a rack on top and strap them down, fold them out when you're camped.
31mph top speed, and you need to stop and wait for a day or two to recharge every 77 miles.
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At that point, you might legitimately be making faster progress by riding a bicycle, even one carrying camping gear.
Mexico is cool
Mexico in pretty warm
Yeah, I mean, they are the source of (nearly?) all avocados. Can't beat 'em...
I wonder if this is being aimed at a replacement for the ubiquitous bocho, or original VW bug, that still dominates the intracity car fleets of the many smaller cities and towns in the mountains Central region. If it's rear wheel drive that's my guess, those things only ever go on nigh-vertical narrow cobblestone roads in dense urban environments so low range and slow speeds won't matter at all.
50 kmh isn't much, even for city driving.
It's plenty for most cities in the world.
I know in the US everyone's driving at 120mph through tight city streets while shooting children, but the rest of the world isn't like that.
Hello from New Zealand.
Hello from Vietnam.
So I guess New Zealand also like charging all over the place at speeds more likely to kill pedestrians?
TBH the only city I've been in where most of the traffic is at over 50mph is Singapore, and that wasn't a good thing.
My best guess is it will be part of their public transport system. As an example, in Mexico City they have small vans that run up and down a hill but spend most of their time at the base of the hill waiting to go back up. They could charge for a bit while they wait at the bottom.
That's more than enough speed in an urban area. Safety is more important than speed.
Considering how.much people look at their phones instead of the road I think 30km/h should be the max in cities.
Most of Japan's cities are 20-30. There are some bigger, multi-lane roads that are 40 or 50. It kinda depends on road size, curvatures, and how residential the area is.
50 is higher than most people can drive in a city because of traffic.
Dublin city centre is 30kph limit.
Car brain alerta.... Car brain alert.
Speed limit in cities in Denmark is 50 km/h with many places being 40 or lower, so it would be quite relevant here
I like it but if it only goes 31 mph, then it's not really a car. IMHO. People drive around in golf carts in my neighborhood all of the time. I'm pretty sure they're nearly the same thing.
It goes 50 kph, which is the speed limit in many cities. It's clearly aimed at people who need a city car and won't be taking it on the freeway.
Probably a categorisation thing to make them more accessible. In Europe there's a class of vehicle called Motor Quadricycle which are subject to very relaxed taxes and regulation compared to cars but have to meet very strict regulations about size, speed, capacity, etc. In France they call them San Permits because you literally don't need a driver's license to drive one of you were born before 1990, and anyone else aged 14+ only need to have had a minimal training session (those numbers might be a bit odd but you get the idea). A lot of people who simply couldn't get a license to drive a car can still get one of these - for better or worse.
Mexico (at least up north where I e been) has little neighborhoods like in the US, but they all have their own stores and stuff. Like a mini suburb in a subdivision.
31 mph would be plenty.
They also have a robust "microbus" economy. These are basically private individuals running little routes in the neighborhood and between them, to some of the bigger shops.
This vehicle could be well suited for this and the micros are as ancient as they are ubiquitous. It's a good little chunk of traffic. Of that's what they're targeting, then it strikes me as clever. Bunch of folks mostly running errands.
It'll be neat to see how it does.
They remind me of Kei cars in Japan. Kind of the same principle. More than a golf cart, less than a car.
Sounds like terrorism to me. Another good reason for the US to invade and install a puppet. /s obviously. Fuck the USA.
The suburb where I live is closer to rural than urban, but I could totally see getting one of these for commuting and errands around town.
Just give me an upgraded $10K version that can do 50 mph instead of 50 km/h, because once I get to the end of my street I'm turning into traffic comprised of F-150s and Escalades already going faster than that (illegally).
But why?
The car is designed for urban settings and has a top speed of 50 kilometers (31 miles) per hour.
It sounds like maybe a 25kWh battery? Why can't it have a real top speed like every other actual car?
Why can’t it have a real top speed like every other actual car?
They skimped out on safety and crumple zones in order to make it lighter and cheaper, but that makes it extremely unsafe at high speeds.
No way it'll be allowed in the US, our automotive industry is terrified of legitimate competition.