supersquirrel

Oh? You aren't one of those cowards that prefers to be called a coward?

That is the words of a coward if I have ever heard one

Ok, good! My point is imagine being someone scared, directly at bodily threat right now, and hearing someone else casually remark on the internet right now "well, why would we stop the Republicans when they are fucking up so bad?".

This is the kind of thing that makes people hate you, people are DYING RIGHT NOW. Yes, I know that is because of the other side making things horrifically bad, but that doesn't give you the right to be flippant about it, to not resist in any way you can, and most importantly not to consider the lives of people who can't just wait it out as Republicans continue to destroy their lives and kill them.

but also why stop MAGA when they're fucking up this badly?

Hey imagine if you had a baby inside you, and then something catastrophic happened and the failed pregnancy now was threatening your life.

Now imagine you heard someone saying some dumb shit like you are now saying while you were wondering if your doctor was going to be able to operate on you before it was too late as you sit waiting to get close enough to death to be saved...

Now imagine the Democrats over decades and decades pretending like they were going to fight to stop this kind of insane cruelty towards women, raised countless amounts of money on that narrative, and then proceeded to do next to NOTHING to stop the overturning of Roe V. Wade, to put the brakes on ths descent into fascism at all?

Now shut the fuck up.

You can do this thought experiment from the perspective of an immigrant who has watched the Democratic party totally adopt a rightwing framing on immigration and lean into dehumanizing immigrants, but they would talk about it in a nicer way..... (I mean look at Biden's record on immigration, it is downright conservative).... and imagine right now you hear someone saying something like you just did as the entire country collapses into a crisis over whether immigrants should be treated like human beings or not.

The place to fight was to never accept these horrendous framings that are so twisted they are violent threats to our loved ones and the people that make up our communities, shame on you for having the smallness of vision to see how badly the Democrats failed and are failing to meet this moment by and large.

No, there is so much more they could have done and they could be doing, and many of them aren't because they are actually fine with this along with every damn Republican.

Exactly

People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Neoliberals and centrists need to get this through their firewall of condescencion towards leftists, no matter how much y'all hate leftists (and laugh at leftists with your more conservative friends) you need to understand the average person in the US hates you and your leaders far more than than they hate genuine leftists that actually fight for the working class instead of spitting on them and publicly calling them stupid.

I wish that were true

Besides the lame masculinity part (history is surely full of far more men who were cowards as leaders than women) it is true.

There are many reasons turn out was crap, primarily people didn't want Biden shoved down their throat again and Harris didnt have the time or space to differentiate herself.

Well see there is just the problem, TERF island needs more toxic masculinity so the men can be tough!

/s

lol you sound like such a boomer

sounds like kids are evolving into their final form, woke beyblades

The idea of civility, a mere whiff of an intellectual fart, is in fact more important to them than actual human lives.

This at the end of the day is what I mean when I insult a centrist by calling them a liberal.

It is an utterly hollow worldview built out of all the easy nice things that divides people by providing a corrupted, deeply incomplete vision of a better future and then collapsing it into cynicism, at which point the liberal throws up their hands and becomes a good little conservative (though they still might call describe themselves as on the left for decades).